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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23906</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 04:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gihyeon,

I didn't mean that growing up in poverty was a great thing.  It is rather a great obstacle that these men have overcome. 

Enlisted soldiers usually do not have a big picture.  Nor do they gain experiences in planning and executing a wide scale manuevers. To lead a nation, this command experience in a large scale is absolute necessity and high-ranking officers(generals) or big corporation executives have this experience.  They usually make a better president, in my opinion, than lawyers or college professors.

  

Andy,

The Cholla "republic" voted 95% Uri party in the last election.  This is dangerous regionalism!  Some Koreans start looking at Cholla people as separate entities from the rest of Koreans.  These selfish people band together and dictate the rest of Korea.  In this administration, most important posts are held by Cholla natives.  The hate toward these people are growing every day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gihyeon,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean that growing up in poverty was a great thing.  It is rather a great obstacle that these men have overcome. </p>
<p>Enlisted soldiers usually do not have a big picture.  Nor do they gain experiences in planning and executing a wide scale manuevers. To lead a nation, this command experience in a large scale is absolute necessity and high-ranking officers(generals) or big corporation executives have this experience.  They usually make a better president, in my opinion, than lawyers or college professors.</p>
<p>Andy,</p>
<p>The Cholla &#8220;republic&#8221; voted 95% Uri party in the last election.  This is dangerous regionalism!  Some Koreans start looking at Cholla people as separate entities from the rest of Koreans.  These selfish people band together and dictate the rest of Korea.  In this administration, most important posts are held by Cholla natives.  The hate toward these people are growing every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy (The Yangban)</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23905</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy (The Yangban)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk,

I think that one reason Jeolla has been a "breeding ground for Korean Commies" is that it was the odd region out during Korea's rapid economic development under Park Chung-hee.  Also, as the home region of the 'anti-government' Kim Dae-jung and the site of the Gwangju Massacre, the the people of region have not been comfortable supporting the GNP.  I think that a Goh candidacy and party realignment would give a home to moderate and conservative voters in Jeolla.

Juggertha,

Yes, I think that Goh is too old, but if I think that most Koreans would prefer an old goat like Goh to either PGH or 'Vlad' Chung Dong-young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk,</p>
<p>I think that one reason Jeolla has been a &#8220;breeding ground for Korean Commies&#8221; is that it was the odd region out during Korea&#8217;s rapid economic development under Park Chung-hee.  Also, as the home region of the &#8216;anti-government&#8217; Kim Dae-jung and the site of the Gwangju Massacre, the the people of region have not been comfortable supporting the GNP.  I think that a Goh candidacy and party realignment would give a home to moderate and conservative voters in Jeolla.</p>
<p>Juggertha,</p>
<p>Yes, I think that Goh is too old, but if I think that most Koreans would prefer an old goat like Goh to either PGH or &#8216;Vlad&#8217; Chung Dong-young.</p>
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		<title>By: Gihyeon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23904</link>
		<dc:creator>Gihyeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with much of what Baduk (capitalizing your user name, sorry) said, excep this...

...military(he was juat an enlisted)

Why is growing up in poverty such a great thing but being "just" an enlisted man not?  (Incidentally, I don't think that being an enlisted man in any way makes one better qualified to be president, but...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with much of what Baduk (capitalizing your user name, sorry) said, excep this&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;military(he was juat an enlisted)</p>
<p>Why is growing up in poverty such a great thing but being &#8220;just&#8221; an enlisted man not?  (Incidentally, I don&#8217;t think that being an enlisted man in any way makes one better qualified to be president, but&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Juggertha</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23903</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggertha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 07:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yee Myung Park all the way baby!!  hehe


Honestly, don't you guys think that Go-Gun is just too old?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yee Myung Park all the way baby!!  hehe</p>
<p>Honestly, don&#8217;t you guys think that Go-Gun is just too old?</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23902</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 05:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee MyungBak came from a poor family just like many of Rho's student radicals.  Like them, he was active in anti-government demonstration and may have been arrested once.

But, he changed.  Instead of scheming how to kill the rich, he decided to work.  He joined the Hyundai construction company(the beginning of Hyudai corporation) and worked his way up.  His sincerity, devotion to work, fairness to fellow workers and effectiveness are familar to all Koreans.

He is now the mayor of Seoul.  He brought changes in Seoul's traffic system and restored Chunggechun(a water flow through the center of the city).  He definitely made Seoul better.  

He is a proven leader with very positive record.  He is a Christian who hates Communists.  He should be the center of next Korean administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee MyungBak came from a poor family just like many of Rho&#8217;s student radicals.  Like them, he was active in anti-government demonstration and may have been arrested once.</p>
<p>But, he changed.  Instead of scheming how to kill the rich, he decided to work.  He joined the Hyundai construction company(the beginning of Hyudai corporation) and worked his way up.  His sincerity, devotion to work, fairness to fellow workers and effectiveness are familar to all Koreans.</p>
<p>He is now the mayor of Seoul.  He brought changes in Seoul&#8217;s traffic system and restored Chunggechun(a water flow through the center of the city).  He definitely made Seoul better.  </p>
<p>He is a proven leader with very positive record.  He is a Christian who hates Communists.  He should be the center of next Korean administration.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23901</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 05:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy and Oranckay,

I think Park GunHye and Lee MyongBak combination will retake the country from these left-wing nuts.  Yesterday, Lee said he would work closely with PGH to bring about changes in Korea.  More pragmatic, pro-America, pro-defense and pro-market approach.

As long as they do not fight among themselves about the candidacy for presidency(I think LMB will gracefully bow out and take the secretary of State.  You got to love this man!), I think the conservatives will enjoy easy win.

GoGun pretends to be pro-America but he is from Cholla province known as the breeding ground from Korean Commies.  He also did not send his son into military service.  A crucial weakness.  He also has been around too long - a closet full of skeletons.

I do not see any problem at this point.  With DJ dying, this history of Korean Commies must end here! Even earlier, if Rho realize what is good for the country and resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy and Oranckay,</p>
<p>I think Park GunHye and Lee MyongBak combination will retake the country from these left-wing nuts.  Yesterday, Lee said he would work closely with PGH to bring about changes in Korea.  More pragmatic, pro-America, pro-defense and pro-market approach.</p>
<p>As long as they do not fight among themselves about the candidacy for presidency(I think LMB will gracefully bow out and take the secretary of State.  You got to love this man!), I think the conservatives will enjoy easy win.</p>
<p>GoGun pretends to be pro-America but he is from Cholla province known as the breeding ground from Korean Commies.  He also did not send his son into military service.  A crucial weakness.  He also has been around too long - a closet full of skeletons.</p>
<p>I do not see any problem at this point.  With DJ dying, this history of Korean Commies must end here! Even earlier, if Rho realize what is good for the country and resign.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23900</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 04:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

Rho was just a high school graduate.  He did self-study and passed the bar exam.  I guess he is good  at memorizing facts.  But, other than that, he has no idea about economics, military(he was juat an enlisted), world events, protocols and history.  Just full of Communist ideologies and propaganda. Never set foot outside Korea till he became the president.

These lack of experience, which is shared by his inner circle, cost Korea great deal.  The most damge done by these country bumpkins was the loss of close relationship between Korea and the US.   These student radicals of 60s just recite Communist manifesto and NK propaganda.  Their head is wired like that.  Hey, even Chinese communists see the power of market, but not these dumbasses.  They are forever stuck in 1960s.

They love to see the US departing from Korea.  One country that really helped Korea!  Yet, these simpletons want "blood purity" as claimed by NKs, not realizing NK is under China. Their actions will only subjugate entire Korea under Chinese control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Rho was just a high school graduate.  He did self-study and passed the bar exam.  I guess he is good  at memorizing facts.  But, other than that, he has no idea about economics, military(he was juat an enlisted), world events, protocols and history.  Just full of Communist ideologies and propaganda. Never set foot outside Korea till he became the president.</p>
<p>These lack of experience, which is shared by his inner circle, cost Korea great deal.  The most damge done by these country bumpkins was the loss of close relationship between Korea and the US.   These student radicals of 60s just recite Communist manifesto and NK propaganda.  Their head is wired like that.  Hey, even Chinese communists see the power of market, but not these dumbasses.  They are forever stuck in 1960s.</p>
<p>They love to see the US departing from Korea.  One country that really helped Korea!  Yet, these simpletons want &#8220;blood purity&#8221; as claimed by NKs, not realizing NK is under China. Their actions will only subjugate entire Korea under Chinese control.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He still thinks at the level of 1960s?€™ Korean college students (BTW he never attended college).

I thought he was a lawyer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He still thinks at the level of 1960s?€™ Korean college students (BTW he never attended college).</p>
<p>I thought he was a lawyer?</p>
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		<title>By: oranckay</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23898</link>
		<dc:creator>oranckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own prediction (in February) was that Goh would probably not be running, but that if he was it would certainly not be with the GNP because there's just no way the GNP would just hand him the nomination. Not because of the way it attacked him when he sought confirmation as Roh's PM, mind you, but because there are just too many people in the GNP who want to run and there's no way they would just give that up. Goh has no factional backers in the GNP. PGH barely does too, and she was only called in to be chairwoman after the impeachment evilness backfired and they were hurting going into the last general election. Two-time loser Lee Hoi Chang does better than PGH in surveys of opinion in PGH's own district, and I don't think anyone in the GNP have ever been "satisfied" with her though she has managed to strengthen her position - I'd thought they'd have done away with her by now. 

I can't imagine anyone in Uri who would do well against Goh because as Andy says he'd make a strong candidate, but if he's running against Lee Myung Bak I might get naturalized and run for Uri's nomination myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own prediction (in February) was that Goh would probably not be running, but that if he was it would certainly not be with the GNP because there&#8217;s just no way the GNP would just hand him the nomination. Not because of the way it attacked him when he sought confirmation as Roh&#8217;s PM, mind you, but because there are just too many people in the GNP who want to run and there&#8217;s no way they would just give that up. Goh has no factional backers in the GNP. PGH barely does too, and she was only called in to be chairwoman after the impeachment evilness backfired and they were hurting going into the last general election. Two-time loser Lee Hoi Chang does better than PGH in surveys of opinion in PGH&#8217;s own district, and I don&#8217;t think anyone in the GNP have ever been &#8220;satisfied&#8221; with her though she has managed to strengthen her position - I&#8217;d thought they&#8217;d have done away with her by now. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine anyone in Uri who would do well against Goh because as Andy says he&#8217;d make a strong candidate, but if he&#8217;s running against Lee Myung Bak I might get naturalized and run for Uri&#8217;s nomination myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy (The Yangban)</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/23/the-next-election-the-next-realignment/#comment-23897</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy (The Yangban)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oranckay,
There is certainly possible that a Goh candidacy will split the conservatives the way the two Kims split the anti-Roh Tae-woo vote in 1987(?).  In fact, when I was wildly speculating on a Goh candidacy last year, it was premised on his being drafted by GNP members who are not satisfied with Park Geun-hye.

In fact, I think I'll go back and update the post to include that information.

Kimchiboys,
WTH?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oranckay,<br />
There is certainly possible that a Goh candidacy will split the conservatives the way the two Kims split the anti-Roh Tae-woo vote in 1987(?).  In fact, when I was wildly speculating on a Goh candidacy last year, it was premised on his being drafted by GNP members who are not satisfied with Park Geun-hye.</p>
<p>In fact, I think I&#8217;ll go back and update the post to include that information.</p>
<p>Kimchiboys,<br />
WTH?</p>
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