Comments on: Korean War orphan photo exhibit cancellation http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:26:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Sonagi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23780 Sonagi Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:11:24 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23780 Below is a story that appeared in Sunday's Tribune. I copied the story becaused registration is required. In this story, the Chinese are reluctant to acknowledge that a foreign missionary saved thousands of lives during the Rape of Nanjing. The last sentence really finishes the story. China salutes Illinois hero of massacre by Japanese By Russell Working Tribune staff reporter Published September 25, 2005 BEIJING -- When Japanese troops stormed into Nanjing in 1937, murdering 300,000 Chinese and raping thousands of women and girls, an Illinois woman was among a handful of foreigners who stood against the tide. Minnie Vautrin, a missionary educator from Secor, near Bloomington, hung an American flag outside her missionary college, declared a safe zone and sheltered 10,000 women and children from death by gunfire, sword and bayonet. She held her ground when imperial troops aimed rifles at her, slapped her face, threatened her with death. "How many thousands were mowed down by guns or bayoneted we shall probably never know," wrote Vautrin, whom massacre survivors called a goddess of mercy. "For in many cases oil was thrown over their bodies and then they were burned." This summer and fall, in a rare turn of events, Beijing is commemorating the victims of Japanese war crimes through the eyes of a foreigner: Vautrin. In a communist country where the United States is often attacked in media and the arts, an official dance drama tells of the massacre in Nanjing as witnessed by the American woman. Another former Illinois resident is also at the center of the production "Nanjing 1937." The dance, which opened in Beijing this month and is slated to travel elsewhere in China, portrays Vautrin's ghost guiding the research of author Iris Chang, who is revered here for writing a best-selling account of the atrocity, "The Rape of Nanking," as the city was then known. Choreographer Tong Ruirui, 28, said she was moved to learn that both women ended up committing suicide--belated victims, she believes, of the massacre. Vautrin suffered a nervous breakdown and killed herself in 1941 at age 53 in Indianapolis. Chang, who was severely depressed, shot herself in California last November. She was 36. "I wondered what they would say to each other when they met in heaven," said Tong, who directs the China National Chinese Opera and Dance Drama Company production. Tong's decision to use a foreign perspective to illuminate Chinese suffering is a rarity in a country known for its aggrieved nationalism on matters concerning Japan, whose defeat 60 years ago is being celebrated by operas, photo exhibitions and ceremonies of goose-stepping soldiers laying wreaths. The young choreographer even cast a Texan who is a longtime Beijing dancer as Vautrin. The dance occurs at a time when a documentary and books have brought about a renewed interest in Vautrin, said Hua-ling Hu, the Carbondale-based author of "American Goddess at the Rape of Nanking: The Courage of Minnie Vautrin." An exhibition of Vautrin's letters and photographs also opened in August in Beijing. Meanwhile in Illinois, Gov. Rod Blagojevich has declared Tuesday, Sept. 27, "Minnie Vautrin Day" in response to a request from a citizen. Not a biography Because of the fame of her book, Chang is even more revered than Vautrin here. Chinese officials, grateful for her contribution in bringing the massacre before a wide audience, are erecting statues of her. A bronze monument to Vautrin was established at her college in Nanjing in 2002. But "Nanjing 1937" takes a surprising perspective: It downplays Vautrin's role in saving lives, said Aly Rose, who is dancing the Vautrin role. (Vautrin's college was part of a larger effort by foreigners credited with saving some 250,000 lives by creating places of refuge in the city.) In one scene, Vautrin saves a girl from the Japanese, but the child is later killed. "The focus of the story isn't that Minnie Vautrin saved all these people," Rose said. "The focus is that Minnie Vautrin witnessed all these people dying, and Iris Chang wrote about it, and now we're going to tell you about it today. ... I kept saying, `Could we at least have one part that testifies that she actually saved lives?'" Tong insists that the point of the dance is to commemorate the suffering of those who died, not to provide a biography of one woman. "It's from her perspective that we're witnessing all the women being killed and raped, that we see the evil," Tong said. "So we're using her eyes, but not her life story." Vautrin's relatives say they are honored by the production, even without an explicit reference to her saving thousands of lives. Cindy Vautrin--a Mt. Pleasant, Mich., great-granddaughter of Vautrin's brother--saw the production earlier this summer and believes the play both alludes to the Illinois woman's courage and powerfully captures the emotions of the massacre. Vautrin would have been a remarkable woman even without her heroism in Nanjing. Born in Secor in 1887 in the family of a French immigrant blacksmith, she received degrees from what is now Illinois State University and the University of Illinois before going to China as a missionary educator. Vautrin undertook a round-the-world study of education that brought her to the post-revolutionary Soviet Union and other countries. She helped found Ginling College in Nanjing, where she was dean of studies at the time Japan attacked in 1937. As Japanese troops approached, Vautrin refused to be evacuated by the American embassy. Shell-shocked refugees crowded the campus, and she had to contend with a lack of food and poor sanitation. She and other foreigners who established safe zones had only their flags to protect them. In her accounts of the massacre, later read by Chang, she described the mayhem. "There probably is no crime that has not been committed in this city today," Vautrin wrote. "Thirty girls were taken from the language school last night, and today I have heard scores of heartbreaking stories of girls who were taken from their homes last night--one of the girls was but 12 years old." Vautrin's 94-year-old niece, Emma Lyon, who lives in Shepherd, Mich., recalled in a phone interview how her aunt's letters described the war zone. "She told about how bullets went through her office windows," Lyon said, "and how the [Japanese] would come to the campus. She would defy them not to touch one of her girls, and they would slap her." Vautrin suffered a nervous breakdown in 1940 and returned to the U.S. Lyon planned to visit Indianapolis to introduce Vautrin to her children in 1941, but the troubled missionary begged her not to come. That weekend, she sealed up her kitchen, turned on the gas in an unlit stove and killed herself. "She didn't think that she had amounted to anything and that she had accomplished anything," Lyon said. "It wasn't her anymore. No, it just wasn't her." Chang was born in Princeton, N.J., in 1968 and raised in Champaign-Urbana. She worked briefly as a reporter for the Associated Press and the Chicago Tribune before leaving journalism to write books. Chilling dances Recently, the dance company gathered to practice for their Beijing opening. It could have been a rehearsal hall anywhere, with rails along the walls and mirrors reflecting the men and women in tights. But a huge red banner hung along the ceiling urged dancers to "fervently serve the plan that's in alignment with the government," in the dancers' translation. The company was working to depict the rapes that gave the massacre its name. (Japanese nationalists insist that Chinese and Western rape and death estimates are grossly exaggerated.) Four leering male dancers stick out their tongues as they grab female partners and bend them about; the women grimace as if in agony. There is a chilling power as Rose circles the duets, pleading with Japanese soldiers, who shove her aside. It has been an emotionally exhausting season for Tong's dancers. Every day, they must weep as they dance. When they sleep they suffer from nightmares: murders, gang-rapes, soldiers in dance halls beheading the women. While performing in Nanjing, the dancers visited a memorial to the massacre. One photograph showed a pregnant woman whom Japanese soldiers had gang-raped and then cut open, killing her baby before her eyes as she died, Rose said. She is Jewish and her grandfather's family lost relatives in the Holocaust. She is inspired by Vautrin's courage amid another wartime mass murder. In Rose's view, the reasons are complex for downplaying Vautrin's role in saving lives. It is hard to acknowledge the heroics of non-Chinese amid a national tragedy. After all, Chinese troops failed to protect Nanjing against the Japanese. "It would really be asking a lot to show that Minnie Vautrin saved all these people," Rose said. "It's a challenge because she's not Chinese." Below is a story that appeared in Sunday’s Tribune. I copied the story becaused registration is required. In this story, the Chinese are reluctant to acknowledge that a foreign missionary saved thousands of lives during the Rape of Nanjing. The last sentence really finishes the story.

China salutes Illinois hero of massacre by Japanese

By Russell Working
Tribune staff reporter
Published September 25, 2005

BEIJING — When Japanese troops stormed into Nanjing in 1937, murdering 300,000 Chinese and raping thousands of women and girls, an Illinois woman was among a handful of foreigners who stood against the tide.

Minnie Vautrin, a missionary educator from Secor, near Bloomington, hung an American flag outside her missionary college, declared a safe zone and sheltered 10,000 women and children from death by gunfire, sword and bayonet. She held her ground when imperial troops aimed rifles at her, slapped her face, threatened her with death.

“How many thousands were mowed down by guns or bayoneted we shall probably never know,” wrote Vautrin, whom massacre survivors called a goddess of mercy. “For in many cases oil was thrown over their bodies and then they were burned.”

This summer and fall, in a rare turn of events, Beijing is commemorating the victims of Japanese war crimes through the eyes of a foreigner: Vautrin. In a communist country where the United States is often attacked in media and the arts, an official dance drama tells of the massacre in Nanjing as witnessed by the American woman.

Another former Illinois resident is also at the center of the production “Nanjing 1937.” The dance, which opened in Beijing this month and is slated to travel elsewhere in China, portrays Vautrin’s ghost guiding the research of author Iris Chang, who is revered here for writing a best-selling account of the atrocity, “The Rape of Nanking,” as the city was then known.

Choreographer Tong Ruirui, 28, said she was moved to learn that both women ended up committing suicide–belated victims, she believes, of the massacre. Vautrin suffered a nervous breakdown and killed herself in 1941 at age 53 in Indianapolis. Chang, who was severely depressed, shot herself in California last November. She was 36.

“I wondered what they would say to each other when they met in heaven,” said Tong, who directs the China National Chinese Opera and Dance Drama Company production.

Tong’s decision to use a foreign perspective to illuminate Chinese suffering is a rarity in a country known for its aggrieved nationalism on matters concerning Japan, whose defeat 60 years ago is being celebrated by operas, photo exhibitions and ceremonies of goose-stepping soldiers laying wreaths. The young choreographer even cast a Texan who is a longtime Beijing dancer as Vautrin.

The dance occurs at a time when a documentary and books have brought about a renewed interest in Vautrin, said Hua-ling Hu, the Carbondale-based author of “American Goddess at the Rape of Nanking: The Courage of Minnie Vautrin.” An exhibition of Vautrin’s letters and photographs also opened in August in Beijing. Meanwhile in Illinois, Gov. Rod Blagojevich has declared Tuesday, Sept. 27, “Minnie Vautrin Day” in response to a request from a citizen.

Not a biography

Because of the fame of her book, Chang is even more revered than Vautrin here. Chinese officials, grateful for her contribution in bringing the massacre before a wide audience, are erecting statues of her. A bronze monument to Vautrin was established at her college in Nanjing in 2002.

But “Nanjing 1937″ takes a surprising perspective: It downplays Vautrin’s role in saving lives, said Aly Rose, who is dancing the Vautrin role. (Vautrin’s college was part of a larger effort by foreigners credited with saving some 250,000 lives by creating places of refuge in the city.) In one scene, Vautrin saves a girl from the Japanese, but the child is later killed.

“The focus of the story isn’t that Minnie Vautrin saved all these people,” Rose said. “The focus is that Minnie Vautrin witnessed all these people dying, and Iris Chang wrote about it, and now we’re going to tell you about it today. … I kept saying, `Could we at least have one part that testifies that she actually saved lives?’”

Tong insists that the point of the dance is to commemorate the suffering of those who died, not to provide a biography of one woman. “It’s from her perspective that we’re witnessing all the women being killed and raped, that we see the evil,” Tong said. “So we’re using her eyes, but not her life story.”

Vautrin’s relatives say they are honored by the production, even without an explicit reference to her saving thousands of lives. Cindy Vautrin–a Mt. Pleasant, Mich., great-granddaughter of Vautrin’s brother–saw the production earlier this summer and believes the play both alludes to the Illinois woman’s courage and powerfully captures the emotions of the massacre.

Vautrin would have been a remarkable woman even without her heroism in Nanjing. Born in Secor in 1887 in the family of a French immigrant blacksmith, she received degrees from what is now Illinois State University and the University of Illinois before going to China as a missionary educator. Vautrin undertook a round-the-world study of education that brought her to the post-revolutionary Soviet Union and other countries. She helped found Ginling College in Nanjing, where she was dean of studies at the time Japan attacked in 1937.

As Japanese troops approached, Vautrin refused to be evacuated by the American embassy. Shell-shocked refugees crowded the campus, and she had to contend with a lack of food and poor sanitation. She and other foreigners who established safe zones had only their flags to protect them.

In her accounts of the massacre, later read by Chang, she described the mayhem.

“There probably is no crime that has not been committed in this city today,” Vautrin wrote. “Thirty girls were taken from the language school last night, and today I have heard scores of heartbreaking stories of girls who were taken from their homes last night–one of the girls was but 12 years old.”

Vautrin’s 94-year-old niece, Emma Lyon, who lives in Shepherd, Mich., recalled in a phone interview how her aunt’s letters described the war zone.

“She told about how bullets went through her office windows,” Lyon said, “and how the [Japanese] would come to the campus. She would defy them not to touch one of her girls, and they would slap her.”

Vautrin suffered a nervous breakdown in 1940 and returned to the U.S. Lyon planned to visit Indianapolis to introduce Vautrin to her children in 1941, but the troubled missionary begged her not to come. That weekend, she sealed up her kitchen, turned on the gas in an unlit stove and killed herself.

“She didn’t think that she had amounted to anything and that she had accomplished anything,” Lyon said. “It wasn’t her anymore. No, it just wasn’t her.”

Chang was born in Princeton, N.J., in 1968 and raised in Champaign-Urbana. She worked briefly as a reporter for the Associated Press and the Chicago Tribune before leaving journalism to write books.

Chilling dances

Recently, the dance company gathered to practice for their Beijing opening. It could have been a rehearsal hall anywhere, with rails along the walls and mirrors reflecting the men and women in tights. But a huge red banner hung along the ceiling urged dancers to “fervently serve the plan that’s in alignment with the government,” in the dancers’ translation.

The company was working to depict the rapes that gave the massacre its name. (Japanese nationalists insist that Chinese and Western rape and death estimates are grossly exaggerated.) Four leering male dancers stick out their tongues as they grab female partners and bend them about; the women grimace as if in agony.

There is a chilling power as Rose circles the duets, pleading with Japanese soldiers, who shove her aside.

It has been an emotionally exhausting season for Tong’s dancers. Every day, they must weep as they dance. When they sleep they suffer from nightmares: murders, gang-rapes, soldiers in dance halls beheading the women.

While performing in Nanjing, the dancers visited a memorial to the massacre. One photograph showed a pregnant woman whom Japanese soldiers had gang-raped and then cut open, killing her baby before her eyes as she died, Rose said. She is Jewish and her grandfather’s family lost relatives in the Holocaust. She is inspired by Vautrin’s courage amid another wartime mass murder.

In Rose’s view, the reasons are complex for downplaying Vautrin’s role in saving lives.

It is hard to acknowledge the heroics of non-Chinese amid a national tragedy. After all, Chinese troops failed to protect Nanjing against the Japanese.

“It would really be asking a lot to show that Minnie Vautrin saved all these people,” Rose said. “It’s a challenge because she’s not Chinese.”

]]> By: mizar5 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23779 mizar5 Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:21:05 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23779 Baduk, one observation about racism. Like any other -ism (or -acy), it's an illusion, an abstraction. Take Democracy - even the most totalitarian governments claim to be democracies. So what does it really mean? And yet we see people acting like complete idiots over it. Racism is much the same. Insecurity takes many forms. The more habitual the troubled thought pattern becomes, the more it becomes rationalised into a system of thought that scapegoats a particular group. So "racism" can indeed be found in any country in the world. I' sure we've all experienced it at some time. But the issue is not whether or not racism EXISTS in one country or another. Rather, the issue is that many Korean people have a widespread misconception that white people, including Americans have a highly developed sense of racial superiority greater than that of other races or peoples. Not only is this a false notion, but the opposite should be stated. There is a general collective sense of guilt over what is portrayed in films about historical racism that causes Americans to be more introspective, more sensitive and more generous about race than other peoples. In short, racism is just not nearly as pervasive in the US as in Asian nations like Korea or Japan. This is not a condemnation of one society or another. It is quite natural that US society would be less racist given its history of diversity and the challenges it had to overcome in the development of human rights. Maybe someday Korea will get there too. It is simply too isolated and homogenous for this to occur quite yet. Baduk, one observation about racism. Like any other -ism (or -acy), it’s an illusion, an abstraction. Take Democracy - even the most totalitarian governments claim to be democracies. So what does it really mean? And yet we see people acting like complete idiots over it.

Racism is much the same. Insecurity takes many forms. The more habitual the troubled thought pattern becomes, the more it becomes rationalised into a system of thought that scapegoats a particular group. So “racism” can indeed be found in any country in the world. I’ sure we’ve all experienced it at some time.

But the issue is not whether or not racism EXISTS in one country or another. Rather, the issue is that many Korean people have a widespread misconception that white people, including Americans have a highly developed sense of racial superiority greater than that of other races or peoples.

Not only is this a false notion, but the opposite should be stated. There is a general collective sense of guilt over what is portrayed in films about historical racism that causes Americans to be more introspective, more sensitive and more generous about race than other peoples. In short, racism is just not nearly as pervasive in the US as in Asian nations like Korea or Japan.

This is not a condemnation of one society or another. It is quite natural that US society would be less racist given its history of diversity and the challenges it had to overcome in the development of human rights. Maybe someday Korea will get there too. It is simply too isolated and homogenous for this to occur quite yet.

]]> By: steve http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23778 steve Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:09:32 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23778 Is it just me or has anyone here noticed that anti-US sentiment is cyclical? Is it just me or has anyone here noticed that anti-US sentiment is cyclical?

]]> By: steve http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23777 steve Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:06:06 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23777 nbsp nbsp

]]> By: baduk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23776 baduk Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:56:41 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23776 KrZ, Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate them. I do not think the guy was particularly stupid. Even in 1980s, the US society was not quite open about racial groups and racial understanding. I, myself, had some racial hangups. I am so glad that these days things are moving in the right direction in the US. People have more understanding of different racial groups and also accepting diversity in race. Education, especially in terms of movies, has challenged and changed many people's attitude. "Who's coming to dinner", "In the heat of the night", "Karate Kid", etc.. Sports and music helped as well. KrZ,

Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate them.

I do not think the guy was particularly stupid. Even in 1980s, the US society was not quite open about racial groups and racial understanding. I, myself, had some racial hangups.

I am so glad that these days things are moving in the right direction in the US. People have more understanding of different racial groups and also accepting diversity in race.

Education, especially in terms of movies, has challenged and changed many people’s attitude. “Who’s coming to dinner”, “In the heat of the night”, “Karate Kid”, etc.. Sports and music helped as well.

]]> By: KrZ http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23775 KrZ Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:29:45 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23775 I'm sorry that American guy was a dick to you Baduk. I didn't realize there were people that stupid still in existence back in the homeland. Hopefully Darwin has caught up with that one by now and he died before reproducing. I’m sorry that American guy was a dick to you Baduk. I didn’t realize there were people that stupid still in existence back in the homeland. Hopefully Darwin has caught up with that one by now and he died before reproducing.

]]> By: rowan http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23774 rowan Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:13:59 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23774 Post #16 says korean don't criticize each other. I have to disagree. Koreans love criticizing each other. its only when they are criticized by non-koreans that they pull together, or if others are watching. This is why the government uses so many nationalistic issues to keep the criticism focused on other countries or groups. United we stand devided we fall, and to keep korea united they used anti-US and anti-Japan issues to keep people together. Post #16 says korean don’t criticize each other. I have to disagree. Koreans love criticizing each other. its only when they are criticized by non-koreans that they pull together, or if others are watching. This is why the government uses so many nationalistic issues to keep the criticism focused on other countries or groups. United we stand devided we fall, and to keep korea united they used anti-US and anti-Japan issues to keep people together.

]]> By: kimbob http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23773 kimbob Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:57:39 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23773 Oops, I missed #4 in addition to #10. Oops, I missed #4 in addition to #10.

]]> By: kimbob http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23772 kimbob Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:56:14 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23772 The subject of Anti-Americanism in Korea is a big news in expat blogspheres. But what kind of responses are there in Korean cyber space? According to one site, Oh My News, it hardly makes the top list. I mean, look at the most important talked about subjects right now in Oh My News: 1. ?¸°?????¸?°€, ????¹??¸Œ?¡œ??¤??¸?°€ 2. "????¹???° ??´?²´????³? ??°?³???´??? ?°€??°??? ?¤???¼" 3. "?¹€??™?œ¤??? ??´??¤??´??¼" ?????¼?°”??¤ 4. "????°€?”¨??? ?¶€??¸???..." ?§??????” ?°œ??¸??? ??¤?²´??”? 5. ?…¸??Œ?°? "??­??Œ??´ '??¼??±?????™???' ?ª…??¨ ?¼­ ?°???€??´?²???¤" 6. ?™???°???, ?·¸??? ????????€ ??œ?????´?????? 7. "???????²€?????œ?…? ????°± ??? ??œ??¤?³???”?" 8. ?¹œ??¼?ŒŒ ?¹€?°‘??œ ????†?, ??‰????????œ ??¼?³€ '?¡°?????…' ????°¾??? 9. ?²€?·?²½??´ "?¶”??½???"??¼??”??°... 10.'?§??????” ??™??? ?²??±°?¡?'??´ ??¸??™??œ ??¼?????¸?°€ The MacArthur statue controversy only ranks at #10. The subject of Anti-Americanism in Korea is a big news in expat blogspheres. But what kind of responses are there in Korean cyber space?

According to one site, Oh My News, it hardly makes the top list. I mean, look at the most important talked about subjects right now in Oh My News:

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The MacArthur statue controversy only ranks at #10.

]]> By: rob_in_korea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/16/korean-war-orphan-photo-exhibit-cancellation/#comment-23771 rob_in_korea Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:31:25 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2030#comment-23771 Click on the link in the first paragraph of The Marmot's post. It will take you to the guy's web site.... Click on the link in the first paragraph of The Marmot’s post. It will take you to the guy’s web site….

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