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	<title>Comments on: Leave MacArthur statue where it is: Roh</title>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/14/leave-macarthur-statue-where-it-is-roh/#comment-35837</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line: McArthur is not Korean. Our debt of gratitude is an embarrassment to our racial purity doctrine. He's not Koreans, so we can project some sort of blame on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line: McArthur is not Korean. Our debt of gratitude is an embarrassment to our racial purity doctrine. He&#8217;s not Koreans, so we can project some sort of blame on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Remort</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/14/leave-macarthur-statue-where-it-is-roh/#comment-35818</link>
		<dc:creator>Remort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 21:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone participating in denigrating the MacArthur statue ought to be deported to North Korea.  It's not MacArthur's fault Truman was such a pussy in not letting him finish the job in Russia and China.

Of course, one needs to remember that these "protesters" are in fact PAID PROTESTERS that are sympathetic to North Korea (and those other red bastards) for financial reasons. This may well be the perfect time to militaristically press the issue for unification, and absolutely eliminate the communist threat once and for all.

wjk wrote:
"i wonder what these “nationlist” South Koreans would do with Kim Il Sung’s statues?"

Just wait, we'll show the South Koreans a little trick we did with a tank and some rope in Iraq -- what a beautiful day it will be finally to see Koreans reunited and communism utterly defeated.  Believe you me, it won't end with the Kim statue, we'll rip down the Stalin and Mao ones too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone participating in denigrating the MacArthur statue ought to be deported to North Korea.  It&#8217;s not MacArthur&#8217;s fault Truman was such a pussy in not letting him finish the job in Russia and China.</p>
<p>Of course, one needs to remember that these &#8220;protesters&#8221; are in fact PAID PROTESTERS that are sympathetic to North Korea (and those other red bastards) for financial reasons. This may well be the perfect time to militaristically press the issue for unification, and absolutely eliminate the communist threat once and for all.</p>
<p>wjk wrote:<br />
&#8220;i wonder what these “nationlist” South Koreans would do with Kim Il Sung’s statues?&#8221;</p>
<p>Just wait, we&#8217;ll show the South Koreans a little trick we did with a tank and some rope in Iraq &#8212; what a beautiful day it will be finally to see Koreans reunited and communism utterly defeated.  Believe you me, it won&#8217;t end with the Kim statue, we&#8217;ll rip down the Stalin and Mao ones too.</p>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/14/leave-macarthur-statue-where-it-is-roh/#comment-35813</link>
		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ, not you guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ, not you guys!</p>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/09/14/leave-macarthur-statue-where-it-is-roh/#comment-35812</link>
		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stay tuned, DJ is going to ride up on his white horse and make everything better. Commie dog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay tuned, DJ is going to ride up on his white horse and make everything better. Commie dog!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 00:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But until then, he does have a valid point. South Korea is to date, not completely an independent nation. It is a fact that even South Koreans are ashamed of about their country. 50 years after the Korean War and still North Korea is a threat? Come on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I guess it could seem that way from San Diego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But until then, he does have a valid point. South Korea is to date, not completely an independent nation. It is a fact that even South Koreans are ashamed of about their country. 50 years after the Korean War and still North Korea is a threat? Come on.</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess it could seem that way from San Diego.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shall we thank the Chinese, Mahathir fan?  I would spit on Mao's face, if I could.  Kim Jong Il doesn't have a valid point.  He sucks Chinese butt holes for a living.  That's why some moron Hong Kong Chinese friend of mine said, We give them tons of free stuff and we bailed them out, we can end them, too.  He won't be saying that if Red China didn't make Hong Kong pretty self governing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shall we thank the Chinese, Mahathir fan?  I would spit on Mao&#8217;s face, if I could.  Kim Jong Il doesn&#8217;t have a valid point.  He sucks Chinese butt holes for a living.  That&#8217;s why some moron Hong Kong Chinese friend of mine said, We give them tons of free stuff and we bailed them out, we can end them, too.  He won&#8217;t be saying that if Red China didn&#8217;t make Hong Kong pretty self governing.</p>
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		<title>By: mahathir_fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahathir_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if the US were to leave South Korea, then Kim Jong Il will have exhausted his propaganda that South Korea is a US colony. He will have to find other sources of propaganda to discredit South Korea. And it will be hard. But until then, he does have a valid point. South Korea is to date, not completely an independent nation. It is a fact that even South Koreans are ashamed of about their country. 50 years after the Korean War and still North Korea is a threat? Come on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the US were to leave South Korea, then Kim Jong Il will have exhausted his propaganda that South Korea is a US colony. He will have to find other sources of propaganda to discredit South Korea. And it will be hard. But until then, he does have a valid point. South Korea is to date, not completely an independent nation. It is a fact that even South Koreans are ashamed of about their country. 50 years after the Korean War and still North Korea is a threat? Come on.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder what these "nationlist" South Koreans would do with Kim Il Sung's statues?

Part of the reason why Kim Il Sung was able to pull off his divine crap, was that the Koreans were used to thinking like this at least since the Japanese occupation, where the Shinto religion made Japanese and Korean subjects to believe that the Emperor was a god.

Dating much further back than that, the Chosun or previous kings had a near diety, but not god like status, where they demanded just as much from people.  

Actually, I am willing to conjecture that the Koreans under Japan had never put in deity status to a mere mortal king as they had for the Emperor of Japan.  Thus, Kim Il Sung filled that void and enjoyed it.  This is another small reason for Koreans to hate Japan.  Japan created a context for Kim Il Sung's rise and existance.  Meaning, Kim Il Sung filled the role of the Japanese Emperor.  A human living god who was the supreme ruler of the land.

These fools would probably want to preserve the Kim Il Sung statue, saying it's a testament to Korean self reliance.  Ju Chae.  Bull crap.  Kim Il Sung is in many ways very Japanese like.  Look at himself.  A human living god?  Just like the Emperor of Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder what these &#8220;nationlist&#8221; South Koreans would do with Kim Il Sung&#8217;s statues?</p>
<p>Part of the reason why Kim Il Sung was able to pull off his divine crap, was that the Koreans were used to thinking like this at least since the Japanese occupation, where the Shinto religion made Japanese and Korean subjects to believe that the Emperor was a god.</p>
<p>Dating much further back than that, the Chosun or previous kings had a near diety, but not god like status, where they demanded just as much from people.  </p>
<p>Actually, I am willing to conjecture that the Koreans under Japan had never put in deity status to a mere mortal king as they had for the Emperor of Japan.  Thus, Kim Il Sung filled that void and enjoyed it.  This is another small reason for Koreans to hate Japan.  Japan created a context for Kim Il Sung&#8217;s rise and existance.  Meaning, Kim Il Sung filled the role of the Japanese Emperor.  A human living god who was the supreme ruler of the land.</p>
<p>These fools would probably want to preserve the Kim Il Sung statue, saying it&#8217;s a testament to Korean self reliance.  Ju Chae.  Bull crap.  Kim Il Sung is in many ways very Japanese like.  Look at himself.  A human living god?  Just like the Emperor of Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: mahathir_fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahathir_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If I am allowed to and won’t be punished for it, I’d like to vandalize Mao’s portrait in Tienmen Square."

What would be uncalculated and childish. Remember the Tiananmen Incident in 89? The pragamatic reformers within the Communist party already had the upper hand controlling many branches of the governmnent. Zhao ZiYang was even the premier.

But the student uprising, here I call them the radical reformers created a civil disorder. The hardliners within the Communist Party capitalized on this civil disorder to discredit the pragmatic reformers within the CCP. When it was clear that the radical reformers were no match to create a revolution, the pragmatic reformers were forced to play hard ball to keep their legitimacy. Zhao ZiYang was sacrificed as the scape goat in order for pragmatic reformers to appear "tough" in the eyes of the hardliners. He was put under house arrest and for the next few years, the Communist pragmatic reformers had to play "tough guy" in order to fend off accusations of being "soft" by the Communist hardliners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I am allowed to and won’t be punished for it, I’d like to vandalize Mao’s portrait in Tienmen Square.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would be uncalculated and childish. Remember the Tiananmen Incident in 89? The pragamatic reformers within the Communist party already had the upper hand controlling many branches of the governmnent. Zhao ZiYang was even the premier.</p>
<p>But the student uprising, here I call them the radical reformers created a civil disorder. The hardliners within the Communist Party capitalized on this civil disorder to discredit the pragmatic reformers within the CCP. When it was clear that the radical reformers were no match to create a revolution, the pragmatic reformers were forced to play hard ball to keep their legitimacy. Zhao ZiYang was sacrificed as the scape goat in order for pragmatic reformers to appear &#8220;tough&#8221; in the eyes of the hardliners. He was put under house arrest and for the next few years, the Communist pragmatic reformers had to play &#8220;tough guy&#8221; in order to fend off accusations of being &#8220;soft&#8221; by the Communist hardliners.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R. Elgin, you are right about how (at least) older generation conservative South Koreans view MacArthur.  A hero.  Truman.  Pansy.  Gutless worm.  From the American viewpoint, MacArthur was dismissed because he overstepped his boundaries.  From the South Korean viewpoint, MacArthur could have made all of Korea free.  Truman didn't have the guts to do it, and he was jealous of MacArthur, who didn't think much of Truman.  In a word, Truman is (or was) the most hated US President ever, as far as the South Koreans are concerned.  If I am allowed to and won't be punished for it, I'd like to vandalize Mao's portrait in Tienmen Square.  That's how I feel about Mao, but I'm sure the Chinese will execute me for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R. Elgin, you are right about how (at least) older generation conservative South Koreans view MacArthur.  A hero.  Truman.  Pansy.  Gutless worm.  From the American viewpoint, MacArthur was dismissed because he overstepped his boundaries.  From the South Korean viewpoint, MacArthur could have made all of Korea free.  Truman didn&#8217;t have the guts to do it, and he was jealous of MacArthur, who didn&#8217;t think much of Truman.  In a word, Truman is (or was) the most hated US President ever, as far as the South Koreans are concerned.  If I am allowed to and won&#8217;t be punished for it, I&#8217;d like to vandalize Mao&#8217;s portrait in Tienmen Square.  That&#8217;s how I feel about Mao, but I&#8217;m sure the Chinese will execute me for it.</p>
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