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	<title>Comments on: Google Earth changes &#8216;Sea of Japan&#8217; into &#8216;East Sea&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: onetimepass</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-37680</link>
		<dc:creator>onetimepass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you trying to fight "Eastern Sea" are lucky that you don't actually live in the city named after it ....

From Katz:
I totally disagree with international marriages. If I was president I would destroy the Union Church who is promoting this and disincourage international marriages as possible as I could. Just because your countries are multiracial that doesn’t mean that my country also has to become one. It is as if a disgraced guy tried to induce others who are better than him to disgrace just because he is disgraced, which is revolting.

To Katz:
I gues I'm disgraced, because my gal is Thai, and she is doubly disgraced because she married me and because her mother was Thai and her father was Chinese. But then again, her mother was disgraced because she was mixed, too.

How about this for a solution: don't tell other Koreans whom they should marry. Let the individual choose. You are neither their god nor their emporer.

People like you meet us on the street every day and assume my wife is a Korean who married a foreigner, then shun us (or worse), without ever learning about who we are. Mild nationalism is fine -- wild nationalism which shuts down logical thinking is right up their with radical fundamentalist religion as damaging to society, but I still won't prohibit you from it or return the inslt you laid at my feet, just suggest you change to a more moderate viewpoint which allows the other people who live in your country to follow their hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you trying to fight &#8220;Eastern Sea&#8221; are lucky that you don&#8217;t actually live in the city named after it &#8230;.</p>
<p>From Katz:<br />
I totally disagree with international marriages. If I was president I would destroy the Union Church who is promoting this and disincourage international marriages as possible as I could. Just because your countries are multiracial that doesn’t mean that my country also has to become one. It is as if a disgraced guy tried to induce others who are better than him to disgrace just because he is disgraced, which is revolting.</p>
<p>To Katz:<br />
I gues I&#8217;m disgraced, because my gal is Thai, and she is doubly disgraced because she married me and because her mother was Thai and her father was Chinese. But then again, her mother was disgraced because she was mixed, too.</p>
<p>How about this for a solution: don&#8217;t tell other Koreans whom they should marry. Let the individual choose. You are neither their god nor their emporer.</p>
<p>People like you meet us on the street every day and assume my wife is a Korean who married a foreigner, then shun us (or worse), without ever learning about who we are. Mild nationalism is fine &#8212; wild nationalism which shuts down logical thinking is right up their with radical fundamentalist religion as damaging to society, but I still won&#8217;t prohibit you from it or return the inslt you laid at my feet, just suggest you change to a more moderate viewpoint which allows the other people who live in your country to follow their hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: dogbert</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-22020</link>
		<dc:creator>dogbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree with international marriages. If I was president I would destroy the Union Church who is promoting this and disincourage international marriages as possible as I could. Just because your countries are multiracial that doesn??t mean that my country also has to become one. It is as if a disgraced guy tried to induce others who are better than him to disgrace just because he is disgraced, which is revolting. 

Typical hypocritical and racist Korean.

Keep it coming.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree with international marriages. If I was president I would destroy the Union Church who is promoting this and disincourage international marriages as possible as I could. Just because your countries are multiracial that doesn??t mean that my country also has to become one. It is as if a disgraced guy tried to induce others who are better than him to disgrace just because he is disgraced, which is revolting. </p>
<p>Typical hypocritical and racist Korean.</p>
<p>Keep it coming.</p>
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		<title>By: watoro</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-22019</link>
		<dc:creator>watoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tired of all the crazy bitching, google decides to display both "East Sea" and "Sea of Japan"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tired of all the crazy bitching, google decides to display both &#8220;East Sea&#8221; and &#8220;Sea of Japan&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-22018</link>
		<dc:creator>Kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 02:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is whether Google will pick Huntington Beach or Santa Cruz as the "real" Surf City, USA. Hard to believe they're taking this all the way to the Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is whether Google will pick Huntington Beach or Santa Cruz as the &#8220;real&#8221; Surf City, USA. Hard to believe they&#8217;re taking this all the way to the Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-22017</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which one would you choose between East Sea/Oriental and Sea of Japan? Of course East Sea/Orienta Sea. And between East Sea and Oriental Sea which one would you choose? Of course East Sea because it goes well better. And I think it wouldn't make difference to Japan because it actually covers the sea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which one would you choose between East Sea/Oriental and Sea of Japan? Of course East Sea/Orienta Sea. And between East Sea and Oriental Sea which one would you choose? Of course East Sea because it goes well better. And I think it wouldn&#8217;t make difference to Japan because it actually covers the sea.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree with international marriages. If I was president I would destroy the Union Church who is promoting this and disincourage international marriages as possible as I could. Just because your countries are multiracial that doesn't mean that my country also has to become one. It is as if a disgraced guy tried to induce others who are better than him to disgrace just because he is disgraced, which is revolting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree with international marriages. If I was president I would destroy the Union Church who is promoting this and disincourage international marriages as possible as I could. Just because your countries are multiracial that doesn&#8217;t mean that my country also has to become one. It is as if a disgraced guy tried to induce others who are better than him to disgrace just because he is disgraced, which is revolting.</p>
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		<title>By: june</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-22015</link>
		<dc:creator>june</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this entry about Sea of Japan or East Sea? Anyway, since prof. Lankov provides a good insight of interracial marriages in Korea, I??d like to add some of my view. 

I am very happy to see more and more foreigners and interracial (or international) couples in Korea. But reading some news pieces and netizens?? reaction to the international marriage from a Korean portal site, I have to raise a little concern. It seems to me that some Korean guys (who are looking for foreign wives) are not well bred. In other words, they couldn??t get Korean women by any means, so they are looking for somewhere else. Getting laid is the biggest goal in their marriages. Some netizens suggest that Vietnamese women are the best because they tend to be virgin and respect men and follow old-fashioned (Korean) practice of male-preference (????????????????). Give me a break! Vietnamese women are amazing and absolutely beautiful inside and out.  The women should know what they??d get themselves into by getting married to the Korean men. Anyway, choice should be made by each individual woman, and I am sure that good Korean men are looking for foreign wives too. The best of luck for all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this entry about Sea of Japan or East Sea? Anyway, since prof. Lankov provides a good insight of interracial marriages in Korea, I??d like to add some of my view. </p>
<p>I am very happy to see more and more foreigners and interracial (or international) couples in Korea. But reading some news pieces and netizens?? reaction to the international marriage from a Korean portal site, I have to raise a little concern. It seems to me that some Korean guys (who are looking for foreign wives) are not well bred. In other words, they couldn??t get Korean women by any means, so they are looking for somewhere else. Getting laid is the biggest goal in their marriages. Some netizens suggest that Vietnamese women are the best because they tend to be virgin and respect men and follow old-fashioned (Korean) practice of male-preference (????????????????). Give me a break! Vietnamese women are amazing and absolutely beautiful inside and out.  The women should know what they??d get themselves into by getting married to the Korean men. Anyway, choice should be made by each individual woman, and I am sure that good Korean men are looking for foreign wives too. The best of luck for all!</p>
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		<title>By: lankov</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-22014</link>
		<dc:creator>lankov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>International marriages also includes marriages between kyopo men and women in Western countries. I??d guess that of that 8%, a rather large number, if not an absolute majority, are between ethnic Koreans holding different citizenships. I don??t have any stats on that, though.

Well, I have some stats and it seems that it is not quite the case. Marriages with Chinese citizens, who are overwhelmingly (but not exlusively!) kyopo constitutre about half of all mixed marriages, and 72.4% of all marriages between Korean males and foreign females. Then 9.6% of foreign brides are Vietnamese, slightly smaller number are Filippinas. In both cases, they are not kyopo, since neither country has an established Korean community. Hence, at least 20% (more likely, 30-35%) of foreign brides are not kypo. Yesterday I went to Imigration to renew my re-entry permit, and was surprised to see a huge collection of foreign wives of all types. 


 As far as that being amazing for such a racist society, I agree,

Korea is still more racist than the average Western country, but it is becoming less and less racist over the years. Situation is improving. The 386ers might be crazy nationalists with rather stupid ideas about the North and the world in general, but they are far more open-minded than the average Korean of their parents' generation (I mean average, not a SNU or Harvard graduate). And all these foreign brides, including kypo, might make difference, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>International marriages also includes marriages between kyopo men and women in Western countries. I??d guess that of that 8%, a rather large number, if not an absolute majority, are between ethnic Koreans holding different citizenships. I don??t have any stats on that, though.</p>
<p>Well, I have some stats and it seems that it is not quite the case. Marriages with Chinese citizens, who are overwhelmingly (but not exlusively!) kyopo constitutre about half of all mixed marriages, and 72.4% of all marriages between Korean males and foreign females. Then 9.6% of foreign brides are Vietnamese, slightly smaller number are Filippinas. In both cases, they are not kyopo, since neither country has an established Korean community. Hence, at least 20% (more likely, 30-35%) of foreign brides are not kypo. Yesterday I went to Imigration to renew my re-entry permit, and was surprised to see a huge collection of foreign wives of all types. </p>
<p> As far as that being amazing for such a racist society, I agree,</p>
<p>Korea is still more racist than the average Western country, but it is becoming less and less racist over the years. Situation is improving. The 386ers might be crazy nationalists with rather stupid ideas about the North and the world in general, but they are far more open-minded than the average Korean of their parents&#8217; generation (I mean average, not a SNU or Harvard graduate). And all these foreign brides, including kypo, might make difference, too.</p>
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		<title>By: foreigner</title>
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		<dc:creator>foreigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Wikipedia on cartography: "Often the explorer would address the nearest native, pointing at the landmark in question and speaking in a loud voice; whatever the native said was then written down as its name." The Sea of Japan was named using this sort of scientific method. Seriously, though, it doesn't merit any dispute--only Korea is trying to politicize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Wikipedia on cartography: &#8220;Often the explorer would address the nearest native, pointing at the landmark in question and speaking in a loud voice; whatever the native said was then written down as its name.&#8221; The Sea of Japan was named using this sort of scientific method. Seriously, though, it doesn&#8217;t merit any dispute&#8211;only Korea is trying to politicize it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/08/19/google-earth-changes-sea-of-japan-into-east-sea/#comment-22012</link>
		<dc:creator>Kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, Mamtengo (#74). I think one of them is waving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, Mamtengo (#74). I think one of them is waving.</p>
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