I’m all for waving the flag…

by Robert Koehler on August 11, 2005

But pasting them all over Seoul City Hall is just unsightly, IMHO. There had to be better ways to display the flag than this.

{ 21 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Janus August 11, 2005 at 12:31 am

Looks like Seoul is trying to beat NK for ‘most unncessary and wasteful display of national flag’

2 nulji August 11, 2005 at 6:29 am

made me shake my head in disappointment.

3 libertine August 11, 2005 at 9:53 am

I’m surprised they coated the building in flags rather than using them to spell out “????? for president”

4 Shenzhen Whitey August 11, 2005 at 11:01 am

I think its a little humorous, not bad.

5 Joshua August 11, 2005 at 11:17 am

I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know, but there seems to be some deep pre-8/15 symbolism going on here. This is going to be Year 60 since liberation, and it wasn’t a self-liberation, which is an insult to a nation’s pride no matter how you look at it.

ShiChon is one of the few remaining Japanese-built government buildings left in Seoul, and it’s in almost the same architectural style as the former Japanese colonial HQ that replaced–and later, was replaced by–Kwanghwamun Palace.

Not an architectural or aesthetic judgement, but there seems to be an effort to obscure an emotional scar, perhaps for just a short time, until the worst of the symbolism passes.

Like it or not, you can understand it.

6 gerbil August 11, 2005 at 11:27 am

Joshua has hit the nail on the head. That is precisely the symbolism behind it…..similar to the way that Koizumi’s face is disfigured by a black cross over his mouth on protest banners in Korea.
Also, Seoul City has invited Vip guests to a performance by the Seoul Philharmonic on Monday evening. Any guesses where? City Hall Plaza of course…

7 foreigner August 11, 2005 at 11:29 am

Maybe there was a sale on Taegukis.

8 Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) August 11, 2005 at 11:40 am

Hmmm, it just dawned on me that, this being the 60th anniversary, Korea has reached its post-liberation hwangap (???). A person’s 60th birthday is significant because it represents the completion of the traditional 60-year calendrical cycle, and a return to the year name in which one was born. So 1945 was the year ryu (??), and so is this year. Could be heady days ahead….

9 Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) August 11, 2005 at 11:41 am

….And without the extra italicization:

Hmmm, it just dawned on me that, this being the 60th anniversary, Korea has reached its post-liberation hwangap (???). A person?s 60th birthday is significant because it represents the completion of the traditional 60-year calendrical cycle, and a return to the year name in which one was born. So 1945 was the year ?ryu (??), and so is this year. Could be heady days ahead….

10 Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) August 11, 2005 at 11:43 am

…And that should be ryu, not ryu.

Guess I should actually take advantage of this newfangled preview feature that the Marmot has obligingly provided….

11 Ray August 11, 2005 at 3:26 pm

Quite tacky.

12 Kushibo August 11, 2005 at 3:32 pm

Not an architectural or aesthetic judgement, but there seems to be an effort to obscure an emotional scar, perhaps for just a short time, until the worst of the symbolism passes.

Like it or not, you can understand it. Don’t they know: You can’t spite City Hall!

(At least no one is really seriously considering razing the building anymore.)

13 Kushibo August 11, 2005 at 5:48 pm

For those of you who are interested, Yonsei University’s Graduate School of International Studies (GSIS) will be hosting a special seminar??focusing on the activities??of the Korean Zaitun Army Unit stationed in Iraq.??A special advisor to the Iraqi Prime Minister is scheduled to be joined by two professors from Saladdin University in Iraq and GSIS alumnist Lee Jae-hak, as well as a Kurdish translator.??

The seminar is tomorrow, running from 09:40 to 11:00:

9:40 – 10:00???????? Video of Zaitun Unit’s Operations
10:00 – 10:30???????? Lecture by Prof. Kim, Euysang on Korea’s Regional Development
10:30 – 10:50???????? Presentation by Iraqi advisor to the Prime Minister
10:50 – 11:00???????? Q A session

The seminar will be held in room 702 of the New Millennium Hall, close to Yonsei East gate and Ewha Back Gate. These events typically include coffee and free pastries.

Don’t tell them I sent you or else they’ll stop sending me the fliers.

14 Andy (The Yangban) August 11, 2005 at 6:03 pm

Kushibo,

What language will that be in?

15 Kushibo August 11, 2005 at 6:08 pm

Andy, I’m not sure. My assumption is that, since it’s sponsored by GSIS (which is officially in English), anything in Korean or Kurd or Arabic will be translated into English.

16 oranckay August 11, 2005 at 11:07 pm

I rather like what they’ve done at city hall because it’s so unorthodox compared to what officialdom has traditionally done with the flag. I’m not into postmodern art but at least its a clear departure from the perfectly alligned style of dictatorships past and, for that matter, I have a hard time imagining any other East Asian capital’s city hall doing something similar.

17 The Marmot August 11, 2005 at 11:18 pm

I have a hard time imagining any other East Asian capital?s city hall doing something similar.
Probably true, but that could be read in several ways.

18 Ray August 12, 2005 at 8:45 am

Damn, Kushibo, I wish that seminar could have happened in June because I definitely would have went. Where in Seoul is Yonsei anyway (nearest train stop, etc.)?

Report back with a summary of that. If you go.

19 Kushibo August 12, 2005 at 8:52 am

I can’t go, so no report from me.

Yonsei is closest to Shinchon Station, but Ewha University Station is also close, and the view on the walk over is nicer.

20 Mark August 12, 2005 at 10:29 am

A far better way to display the flag, indeed.

21 hardyandtiny August 12, 2005 at 8:29 pm

Daeyz proud! Daeyz proud daer cuntry yo! Daeyz Korean and daeyz all proud yo!

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