Is China letting Koguryo relics go to pot?

The Chosun Ilbo (Korean) reports that Korean scholars who recently paid a visit to Koguryo palace ruins in China’s Jilin Province are expressing serious concern that since getting the sites registered with UNESCO in 2004, the Chinese authorities have paid little or no concern to preserving the artifacts.

15 Comments

  1. Posted July 26, 2005 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    You’d think that they would… is it not part ofthe “one China”?

  2. Posted July 26, 2005 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Time to take that territory back!

  3. kimbob your flag
    Posted July 26, 2005 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Well, it’s very predictable actually. China will let all the current artifacts that don’t support their views, rot. Then they’ll come in few years down the road, claiming they’re going to restore them back to health, instead planting their own artifacts that will “prove” once and for all that Koguryo was just a province of China. They’re playing the same old game, nothing new really.

  4. kimbob your flag
    Posted July 26, 2005 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    So you ask, why they don’t and have not peserve their own people’s “heritage”? Because in their hearts, they don’t really believe it was their heritage. Can you imagine China letting the Great Wall go to rot? That would never happen.

  5. Posted July 26, 2005 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Leave it to Kimbob the paranoid Kyopo (is that the appropriate term for an overseas Korean?) to make EVERYTHING seem like a conspiracy. For your information though, the Great Wall is dissappearing for a very good reason. People living near it are tearing it down illegally. Either demolishing parts of the wall to make way for more roads, or pumeling the wall to use the rubble as gravel.

    An explanation.

    Then again maybe in their “heart of hearts” it is an insidious plot to steal from Korea its rightful historical heritage and Manchuria to boot!

    Boy I could really use the command for an eye-rolling smiley right about now.

  6. kimbob your flag
    Posted July 26, 2005 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    “Then again maybe in their ?€œheart of hearts?€? it is an insidious plot to steal from Korea its rightful historical heritage and Manchuria to boot!”

    You said it (which by the way, I think is spot on), I didn’t.

  7. kimbob your flag
    Posted July 26, 2005 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Jing, you have not yet said either you agreed with China’s historical position on Koguryo or not (or at least I have not read them yet). So, was Koguryo a Chinese administered state or not? I’m interested in what opinion you have regarding this.

  8. nulji your flag
    Posted July 26, 2005 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    the chinese couldn’t care less about koguryo; they care about a place called gando. and that’s what all of this is about. it’s not about finding some legitamacy to grab korean territory. it’s about finding reasons to deny any future claims the koreans might make about gando.

    koguryo is two thousand years ago. gando is just over a hundred years old. how is china going to use such an old claim to invade korea when korea can point out gando in the 1850s? koguryo to china is more like this:

    you say you want our ne province because it was historically yours? well, our records show that our koguryo kingdom was here first. sorry.

    asides:

    i was a bit peeved at seeing all the dignitairies at the funeral of His Majesty, Yi Ku. korean people ignored him all his life but he gets a nice funeral? shame on korea.

    may His Majesty find the peace he never found in life. may the korean people wake up and restore the throne for preservation of korean culture.

    nulji

  9. Posted July 26, 2005 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Cheez, may the Korean people just plain wake up!

  10. seeingsomethingelse your flag
    Posted July 27, 2005 at 3:16 am | Permalink

    nulji,
    i was thinking the same thing about that funeral march down chongno. sad, all the way around.

  11. Posted July 27, 2005 at 4:08 am | Permalink

    “may His Majesty find the peace he never found in life.” God I love you. Without the occasional troll, a blog turns insipid.

    We should reinstate Akihito as the King of Paekjae, since he is probably the closest thing to Paekjae monarchy. While we are at it, maybe we can find the descendents of the original Koryo royalty instead of these Chosun usurper rebel scums.

    I think, humanity also needs a Grand Emperor of the Humans. It would add prestige and class to our species and would invite a lot of tourism business from aliens. Please vote for me and my descendents carrying my Y chromosome in the next election. Until then, toodle-loo.

  12. lirelou your flag
    Posted July 27, 2005 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    VW. Our neighbors up North have that under control. The true descendents of Tangun, as proven by a DNA match made when his “tomb” was discovered in Pyongyang, are none other than the Kim’s of Il-sung and Jong-il fame. I mean, hey, born under a double rainbow on Mount Baekdu. Now, if just the rest uf us slime would recognize their “greatness”.

  13. Posted July 27, 2005 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    KJI is certainly the king of hairdos.

  14. hwarang-dasol your flag
    Posted August 14, 2005 at 5:02 am | Permalink

    Chinese scholars and professors say the Koguryo was a Chinese empire and that Koreans never had any claim to it. Why is that so? Koguryo is a name from an ancient Korean language. Now that the stuff is in their land, they expect to take it away without Korean people’s permission? -_- They should give us all our stuff back.

  15. Asadal your flag
    Posted March 14, 2006 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    http://www.uglychinese.org/korean.htm

    KOREANS

    To expound the myth of Koreans and the Altaic-speaking people, most recent DNA analysis needs to be incorporated. Doctorate Li Hui from Fudan University of China had analyzed the DNA of Asians to derive a conclusion that the ancestors of Mongoloid Asians possessed a distinctive Mark M89 by the time they arrived in Southeast Asia. About 30,000 years ago, from the launching pad of Southeast Asia, the early Mongoloids went through a genetic mutation to Marker M122.

    Today’s Koreans, in the opinion of Li Hui, would be the mixtures of the early migrants to Manchuria and the later Dong-yi [Eastern Yi] migrants from Eastern China. This certainly dealt a blow to the Korean nationalists’ claim of “Siberian origin”.

    To Whom It May Concern:

    The story about Nationalistic China will soon come to
    an end because there is no truth to any of your
    claims. Instead they are THEORIES.

    China tries so hard to maintain their political
    control over their minorities by covering up the truth
    about history. Now they are going as far as comparing
    DNA evidence and the origin of Mongoloids? The word
    Mongoloid was used in the three race THEORY by a
    European who thought that the world only had three
    races. Now you are going further by proposing a theory
    that is embedded within a theory. Now this is so funny
    and amusing. Do you think the rest of the educated
    world believes anything you are trying to publicize?

    Why dont you do your CHINESE people a favor by saving
    time and energy. The quicker you have your people
    educated, the better you have a chance to compete in a
    global world. I mean, you are wasting time covering up
    any truth out there.

    I can though, with the rest of the educated linguistic
    community, inform you that Korean is part of the
    Macro-Altaic family and does share her heritage with
    the rest of the Turkic world. The truth is, I have
    facts to back up my claim. All you have are theories
    about your ignorance and nationalism.

    I think the insecurity of your country stems from the
    fact that there was no real CHINA. It was always
    conquered by a foreign ruler. Oh wait, maybe one
    dynasty was ruled by the HAN Chinese?

    The Korean community respected how the Chinese
    Civilization dispersed and transmitted culture
    throughout Eastern Asia. But you are losing your
    credibility because you are just plain ignorant. The
    Roman Empire gave the Western World civilization, but
    all China has to offer now is their plain stupidity.

    Please for your sake, learn the facts and move on.
    Nationalism and ignorance is soo Old World.

    Any questions? I will gladly share with you facts
    about us Koreans, in a factual, unbiased perspective.
    Yes we are Altaic
    Yes, our language is Altaic in origin but has a large
    Chinese lexicon,
    Yes our history stems from two parts of history:
    pre-contact with Chinese culture and post contact with
    Chinese Culture. I think you only know about the post
    contact with Chinese culture. Oh how convenient.
    Yes we are neighboring countries and yet, you do not
    even know that our country encompassed the area of
    present day Manchuria, which your people still do not
    even know that Manchurains existed and still exist. By
    the way, just because you print stamps and throw away
    anything Korean, does not yet again, erase the past.
    We will wait and see the results from the
    International Educational Community.

    Seriously at this rate, you have more to lose than
    gain. You think you can really live in a neigbhorhood
    where everyone hates you?

    Waiting for a response.

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