You have to respect Jeffrey Jones, who will not only make his kids keep their Korean citizenship, but may also send them to the military. His explanation:
Jones said he made money and enjoyed many benefits while living in Korea for 30 years, and it would therefore be inappropriate for his sons to relinquish their Korean passports to avoid military service. He said military duty could be a valuable experience, adding it was important to do one’s duty - even if, as he joked, his sons would be sent to a war zone.
Hopefully, by the time his children — aged 4 and 2 — reach military age, the draft will be a thing of the past.
Interestingly enough, the Yonhap report on this pointed out that while in the past, visible mixed-race children were excluded from military service, when the amended enforcement ordinance of the military conscription law goes into effect from July, mixed-race children will be able to due their military service if they choose to do so.
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This must be the Jeffrey Jones who said recently that South Korea should be a member of the Gx (x = 5, then 7 with Canada and Italy, and now 8 with Russia). Thus quoth ye olde Chosun on 13th May last:
“The American Chamber of Commerce in Korea (AMCHAM) advised the U.S. government on Thursday to consider Korea?€™s inclusion in the G7 club of leading industrialized nations given its strength and geopolitical position.”
Ah, let me correct myself. Today’s Chosun article says he was the AMCHAM chairman from 1998 to 2002, so it wouldn’t have been him behind that statement.
But kudos to him for allowing his sons to keep their South Korean citizenshipespecially as himself is not even a South Korean citizen. He is definitely setting a positive example.
“…especially as he himself….”
Another publicity stunt by big Jeff. Must have some new bills to cover, and nobody would employ him in a TV add…
Seriously, his kids, by the time they reach 18, will prolly do whatever they want [I hope they'll be independent-minded enough]. As someone who had to go to through [mild] military duty and did try everything legal to avoid it, I know what I would have done had I been in a position like these kids… Chuck the evil citizenship and avoid the uniform.
At least he is taking an active interest in this set of children. Wonder what his first 5 children think about it…
Great comment dda,
The kids are so far from military age, that making this type of statement is pretty safe. I think that a lot will change over the next 15-20 years, and I, for one, will be shocked to ever hear about private Jones serving in the Korean military.
I don’t know why the man is being attacked and his motives questioned when all he’s doing is trying to give back to his country, what he received. Oh I forgot, he’s a traitor for giving up his American/Western citizenship for a Korean one which we all know is inferior in quality. It’s insulting to our nationalities to have to watch these people choosing Korean passport over ours.
kimbob: Ummm… Jeff hasn’t given up his US citizenship. He’s just telling his kids they will be Korean citizens.
I agree with dda. What’s the point of making comments about his four and two year old children’s future during a meeting hosted by the Korean Employers Federation?
Jones said he has made money and enjoyed many benefits while living in Korea for 30 years. Sounds like he intends to continue doing so for at least another 15 or 20 years.
Said DDA: Another publicity stunt by big Jeff. Must have some new bills to cover, and nobody would employ him in a TV add?€?
Yeah, like alimony to the American wife he had a mormon lot of kids with before divorcing to marry Korean woman what, 19 yrs younger….
Seriously, his kids, by the time they reach 18, will prolly do whatever they want [I hope they?€™ll be independent-minded enough]. As someone who had to go to through [mild] military duty and did try everything legal to avoid it, I know what I would have done had I been in a position like these kids?€? Chuck the evil citizenship and avoid the uniform.
The law just changed and you cannot renounce Korean citizenship until doing your time.
BTW, what the law used to say was that “persons visually recognizable [?œ¡????œ¼?¡œ ?™???¸?????”] as being multi-racial” were ??œ2????¼??, not fully exempted like someone with no legs but exempted like the only boy in a family… people you can still draft later if the situation gets desperate. What that also meant is that they got exemptions but always could go when they wanted to. Also, the reason they were given exemptions for the “visually recognizable” factor was that they used to have a serious hazing problem, all the more so back when ‘mixed’ most often meant a kid abandoned by his GI father and born of a prostitute mother. I heard they started getting exemptions when one guy was abused so much he went nuts and shot everyone in his barracks.
Unless Fat Boy hasn’t already arranged for his kids to also to be US citizens by getting them US passports - which the Chosun article confirms he has — then this truly is grandstanding of a scale appropriate to his girth, since the boys will just use their US passports to get out of Dodge when the time comes.
I wonder how it can be considered news that Jeffrey D. Jones (excuse me, JEFFREY D. JONES, as it is always written when the AmCham Journal describes his golf tournament) has “sworn fealty” to Korea?
Kimbob, If you knew anything about this man or had taken 20 seconds to read the linked article, you would see he hasn’t renounced “Superior Citizenship” at all. His vague promises of what his children will do 14 years down the line is just PR coup that portions of the Korean media salivated over. I’m sure the same way many an adoring grandma gets excited watching her grandson pick the 10,000 won bill upon turning 100 days old and has dreams of a future factory owner in the family. Except she’ll never know the special kind of salivation that drools out the words “Important White Person Vows Fealty to Korea.”
However, if you really want to raise the Pilseung Korea chants, you can relish in the fact he traded in his inferior White Whale for a sleeker Korean wife.
-Adam
Yeah, like alimony to the American wife he had a mormon lot of kids with before divorcing to marry Korean woman what, 19 yrs younger?€?.
However, if you really want to raise the Pilseung Korea chants, you can relish in the fact he traded in his inferior White Whale for a sleeker Korean wife.
This kind of shit is really offensive. Even if there are about 1,000,000 reasons to detest JEFFREY D. JONES, the simple fact that he got divorced — like millions of other people in the world — is not relevant to the discussion.
This kind of shit is really offensive.
Not really Brendon. If you don’t want to have people tell your underwear smells, you don’t rub their noses in it. He’s the one who made a public mention of his family situation. If you deem that for publicity reasons your family life is not private any more, don’t be surprised if people poke a little deeper…
If you don?€™t want to have people tell your underwear smells, you don?€™t rub their noses in it. He?€™s the one who made a public mention of his family situation.
Except that when it comes to family, we have to take consideration of the fact that those family members are other people — who are separate and, so far as we know, innocent. Just as Kathie Lee Gifford drove everyone crazy talking about babies Cody and Cassidy, the best thing to do when someone prattles on gracelessly and brings his family into his self-aggrandizement is to have some self-restraint.
It’s similarly irrelevant that JEFFREY D. JONES is fat. There are an awful lot of fat and unattractive people in the world and there’s no reason for adults to pick on a guy for that. Besides, he can’t be too unattractive because that new young wife is quite a babe.
There are substantive reasons to gripe. What annoys me about JEFFREY D. JONES (although I hardly know the man, and generally he’s been very polite to me when we’ve met) is the degree to which I perceive he seeks to suck up all the air in every room he’s in. I’m an AmCham member and I’ve given up on reading the AmCham magazine because every goddamned article is about JEFFREY D. JONES and what JEFFREY D. JONES is up to these days as if we weren’t bombarded with it in the Korean newspapers all the time (and, lately, on some sycophantic talk show on Arirang TV). They should change the name to “JEFF MONTHLY” and be done with it.
I have chosen not to give money to the AmCham Partners for the Future Foundation because whenever the foundation makes a gift, it is reported by the Korean media as JEFFREY D. JONES has personally donated the money. That’s kind of annoying.
Continued from previous post, which I submitted too soon…
What I can’t be sure of is whether JEFFREY D. JONES manipulates this press attention himself, or whether reckless and inattentive Korean reporters are misrepresenting some of the things he does (the AmCham Journal, however…) with the Partners for the Future Foundation. I’ve been misquoted myself, or partially quoted in a way that misrepresents my actual statement and intention (including about this very guy once), enough to recognize that maybe JEFFREY D. JONES can’t control his press persona.
Sore spot there Brendon? First of all, I wasn’t vilifying JEFFREY D. JONES for his divorce. I was pointing out the flaws in Kimbob’s post that us Westerners can’t like him because he gave up his USA citizenship to become Korean to give something back to HIS country.
Seeing how he didn’t do that, Kimbob can feel proud that he at least likes Korea’s women better, if not its citizinship.
Secondly, separately from this post, not all divorces are on equal terms, and reasons behind them can indeed be relevant to judgments of character.
-adam
Sore spot there Brendon?
Yes. I believe it’s never appropriate to drag a person’s innocent family members into criticism of that person.
Fair enough. I can definately buy into that.
Now, if he would simply stop using his innocent family for self-serving aggrandizement. And if articles didn’t start with:
we’d both be happier.
Oops, the quote articles shouldn’t start with should be Marmot’s:
You have to respect Jeffrey Jones, who will not only make his kids keep their Korean citizenship, but may also send them to the military.
I bet he and his innocent family are better with HTML tags than I am.
-adam
I believe it?€™s never appropriate to drag a person?€™s innocent family members into criticism of that person
Big Jeff did the dragging of innocent people into the limelight himself. When talking to the press, or publicly anyway, the door’s never ajar. It’s either wie open, or closed. Keeping it closed is defo the decent thing to do…
The reason Mr. Jones’ “fealty” pledge to Korea became news is because it comes at a time when so many are ditching their citizenship to avoid the draft. For that matter, there were stories earlier of dual citizens ditching their U.S. citizenship to serve in the military. Accordingly, I don’t find it unusual that Mr. Jones’ story would attract media attention.
And I agree with Brendon — say what you will about Mr. Jones, but passing comment on his home life like this isn’t cool. Especially when it’s not particularly relevent to the story above.
But his ex-wife was not a cow, and that was just adding insult and injury to her.
Assume she was a cow, Kushibo. If she was, would that fact make it okay to insult and injure her? Surely you can’t be arguing that. I’ve heard that both the former Mrs. Jones and their children are lovely people. The guy isn’t completely blameless for the nice children.
The problem with assuming a man is a devil, or a saint, is that we’re all — even JEFFREY D. JONES — more complex than that. A man is just a man.
I would think that when a man gets divorced, he should be so lucky to be in the position to remarry and to have another family. So personally, I think it’s cool Jeff has new babies. My daughters are eight and five, and I already miss the passing of their days of foolishness.
And I would pray that anyone who has a beef with me would leave them out of it.
However, if you really want to raise the Pilseung Korea chants, you can relish in the fact he traded in his inferior White Whale for a sleeker Korean wife.
You ever met Janae, his ex-wife? She is certainly no whale, in fact, she is an incredibly striking woman for her age.
And I agree with Brendon ?€” say what you will about Mr. Jones, but passing comment on his home life like this isn?€™t cool. Especially when it?€™s not particularly relevent to the story above.
In a sense, the article was about his homelife. He dragged his children, second set, into the limelight. While not specifically about his divorce or other children, it is amazing how you would never realize he has 7 children and not just 2 when you read his comments in the press. While it could be misquoting and such as Brandon brings up, he isn’t known for talking about his “American” family.
Brendon, not Brandon. Sorry about that.
Gah, I keep forgetting the 2nd daughter. That is 6 kids in the US, 3 boys and 3 girls.
I always find myself shaking my head when I read stories about Mr. Jones.
I once knew his family very well. I had only met him once or twice, but I knew his kids and his wife very well, especially his older daughters and his oldest son. They were a great family, a group of kids (and wife) all with a great head on their shoulders, individually and collectively. I also knew that life for the wife was not exactly a piece of cake.
But I had lost touch with them a short while before that divorce, so when I suddenly read a few years ago about Mr. Jones and his wonderful family (the beautiful wife and new child) and Mr. Jones’s love of Korea because of its devotion to family, I was somewhat disturbed by the coverage. There was no mention whatsoever of the previous family of six children he had dismissed. Seriously, it was like they didn’t exist. And with the emphasis on family values that gushed from the articles, this was really hypocritical. Perhaps because I had known the family quite well, I found it offensive.
Marmot wrote:The reason Mr. Jones?€™ ?€œfealty?€? pledge to Korea became news is because it comes at a time when so many are ditching their citizenship to avoid the draft. For that matter, there were stories earlier of dual citizens ditching their U.S. citizenship to serve in the military. Accordingly, I don?€™t find it unusual that Mr. Jones?€™ story would attract media attention.I don’t find it unusual either. It is newsworthy. But I still find it troubling for a few reasons.
One thing I don’t like is how Mr. Jones appears to be aggrandizing himself by piggy-backing this issue. There are many personal reasons why someone with dual citizenship may choose to give up his (or her) ROK citizenship that have little or nothing to do with military service, but they have ALL been painted as draft dodgers. The related laws that are also being proposed by Hong (?) are so invasive and draconian that they should give a lawyer like Jones serious pause, but instead he is jumping on the bandwagon to show how allegiant he is to Korea, at the expense of those with legitimate reasons for having their child give up ROK citizenship.
And I must admit, because I knew Jones Family 1.0, there was the nagging thought that, here goes Jones again, using his kids like PR pawns if he thinks it can enhance his stature.
Now, on the other hand, Mr. Jones comes with not just a little PR baggage because he occasionally steps up and says the unpopular but necessary thing about Korean law and business (like saying that Korea needs to be seen as a country where the laws and the rules mean something and are followed, or recently when he said that Korea needs to stop being driven by envy of the rich). Perhaps he needs to balance that by showing that he does have love and loyalty for this country.And I agree with Brendon ?€” say what you will about Mr. Jones, but passing comment on his home life like this isn?€™t cool. Especially when it?€™s not particularly relevent to the story above.I respectfully disagree. It is Mr. Jones himself who uses his family for these purposes, and at some point his actual record as a family man becomes somewhat relevant. But his ex-wife was not a cow, and that was just adding insult and injury to her.
dda wrote:Another publicity stunt by big Jeff. Must have some new bills to cover, and nobody would employ him in a TV add?€?Since you’re talking TV and ads, I think you might actually be thinking of Robert Holley, a different lawyer and one who became a naturalized Korean citizen.
Brendon Carr wrote:I have chosen not to give money to the AmCham Partners for the Future Foundation because whenever the foundation makes a gift, it is reported by the Korean media as JEFFREY D. JONES has personally donated the money. That?€™s kind of annoying.I didn’t realize that was happening. I have donated both time and money (and some other things) to the Foundation.
By the way, one thing I always felt uncomfortable with is that it seemed to me (and I could be completely wrong about this) that much of AmCham’s effort and success was because of Ms. Tami Overby (a great person, by the way) and her team, but Mr. Jones often got the limelight and the credit.
Brendon Carr wrote:But his ex-wife was not a cow, and that was just adding insult and injury to her.
Assume she was a cow, Kushibo. If she was, would that fact make it okay to insult and injure her? Surely you can?€™t be arguing that.No, I am not. I saw two offenses there: one the disinformation that she was a cow, and the fact that bashing her for anything like this was adding insult to injury (even if she were a cow).I?€™ve heard that both the former Mrs. Jones and their children are lovely people. The guy isn?€™t completely blameless for the nice children.From what I knew of them, it was far more due to her than to him.I would think that when a man gets divorced, he should be so lucky to be in the position to remarry and to have another family.If the information I have heard is correct, then it wasn’t a case of divorce and then this woman came along: the new woman was the active catalyst for the dissolution of the marriage. Of course, that could be mean-spirited backstabbing on some people’s part, but I did hear it from independent sources.And I would pray that anyone who has a beef with me would leave them out of it. Brendon, I didn’t even know you had kids. And I don’t think that you wouldn’t parade them in front of the public for your own aggrandizement.
When Mr. Jones lays it in front the public that he is a great family man, the public has a right to scrutinize that claim. He is the one who dragged his family into this, so while I respect their privacy, it is he who needs to watch that. I wouldn’t go doing what he is doing.
Kushibo, what you have heard is correct. That is why,in some circles, his continued ‘popularity’ is so galling. He had a long relationship with his second wife before finally divorcing Janae and re-marrying.
For those who are close to the families, Janae gets full credit for kids that aren’t totally screwed up.
I can also say, the divorce, while devastating at the time, has ended up taking a HUGE weight off of her (Janae’s) shoulders allowing her to be happy again.
One of the few things I will give Jeff full credit for is his willingness to pay the money to give his family in the US a comfortable life. There has been no lack in that regard.
And I don?€™t think that you wouldn?€™t parade them in front of the public for your own aggrandizement.Stupid double negatives and their negating qualities! I meant that I don’t think you would parade them in front of the public for your own aggrandizement.
Please: The “new woman” can never be “the catalyst” for demise of a marriage. The new woman is a symptom of a marriage which has to be ailing before the new woman can find room in the heart of another woman’s husband.
With regard to some other guy with six children staying married while he allegedly carries on a relationship with some other lady, from my perspective it’s just as possible he did it for the sake of his family — which includes the wife as well as the children. It may be that he concluded stability for his six kids was more important than personal happiness, and waited until they were grown to get loose of his marriage. That said guy now sends generous support to his family (my understanding is the kids are college-age) makes this interpretation more likely to be true, instead of less likely. Anyway, I don’t know this guy and really don’t like him anyway — but for reasons of professional jealousy more than anything else.
Anyway, my own instinct is to give people the benefit of the doubt when I can stand to. And to not pick on people’s families. It’s better to focus on the traits and behaviors of the person himself.
JEFFREY D. JONES has been very, very good to me, in an oblique way. By being as “not-Jeff” as possible, I get a fair amount of business from people looking to get away from the practices of his law firm. A lot of great referrals for our offices have started with the question “Jeez, is there anyone else who can do this legal work?”
First of all, I didn?€™t know who Jeffrey Jones was (until I read this post). And I am not interested in his personal life whatsoever. But what?€™s the point of staying in a marriage if you are not happy? Everyone wants to or should be happy. Of course, he should be financially responsible and pay the bill after the process. I am not defending a cheating husband, but Mr. Jones?€™ marrying, divorcing or remarrying shouldn?€™t be anyone?€™s business. Personally, I wouldn?€™t mess with a married man (even much older). Aren?€™t younger men cuter? But every woman has a different taste for men…
As a girl, I am so tired of hearing some girls?€™ dishing about their exes. The girls are usually the crazy ones!
If you really care for someone, set him or her free. I was rejected a few times in my life (they actually left for another woman), and I let them go. And I am much happier now. I am sure that the former Mrs. Jones would be the same. We are not that weak. It depends on each female individual, but breaking up or getting divorce isn?€™t a big deal for us. Please, don?€™t underestimate us.
Just a correction:
Not
“I am sure that the former Mrs. Jones would be the same.”
But
“I am sure that the former Mrs. Jones would be much happier too.”
Here is how it happened, you decide.
The last five years of Jeff’s marriage, he lived in Korea, his family lived in the US. He made very infrequent visits to the US and they made even less to Korea. The rest of what I wrote above applies. Oh, his youngest child in the US is 16, not college age. 4 are in college. The oldest is married with a gorgeous baby daughter.
My thoughts, if you are staying in a marriage for the children, STAY IN THE DAMN MARRIAGE. What he did was far more harmful than if he had been honest and divorced her 5 years earlier, then met some Korean lady to date and marry. Certain of his children I doubt will ever forgive him for cheating on their mother.
With that, what June says is true. The former Mrs. Jones is FAR happier being divorced.
Admirable???? Since when has it become admirable to treat your children like property of the state?
TN Park aka 95 sez:dda wrote:
Another publicity stunt by big Jeff. Must have some new bills to cover, and nobody would employ him in a TV add?€?
Since you’re talking TV and ads, I think you might actually be thinking of Robert Holley, a different lawyer and one who became a naturalized Korean citizen.
I know my foreign “talents” alright, thank you very much, been in Korea long enough to remember them making their debut, and not long enough to think whiteys look all the same. What I meant by this was that he never could get to star in a TV add, and did his self-promotion on TV in another way…
in Mr. Jones’ defense:
As someone mentioned above, sometimes the media misquotes or goes overboard with things people say. Mr. Jones could’ve said what he did pretty matter of factly and it still would’ve been milked for as much milage as possible by the Korean media to shame those who have, as legal guardians of minors, signed the papers to let their sons renounce ROK citizenship. The Korean media does that often; finds an example of one guy doing something right and quotes him to death to take a swipe at the rest. The fact that Jones himself is not a Korean citizen makes it even sweeter… “this guy isn’t even Korean and look at the example he sets!!” I’m not the slightest surprised that the story has gotten so much more coverage than it deserves.
My son is also a Korean citizen and now that the deadline has passed he can’t renounce it until he’s gone to the military - his only option is to leave Korea before he gets his induction notice and never come back (because he’ll still be a citizen), or hope that the do away with conscription. I’ll expect him to make his own decision but I’ll be entirely supportive if he decides to go to the miltiary. (I’m pro draft, btw, though I understand why militaires are often against it for practical reasons.)
I think Kushibo got the core of this one, Jeff invited scrutiny by bringing up the family publicly to begin with. I couldn?€™t care less what caused his divorce and how when and under what circumstances he met his current wife. It is a bit disgraceful that he is using the second batch of kids as proof that he is some sort of model parent with out mentioning the first batch, at least some of whom, I understand, also have a love for Korea. I agree with Plunge?€™s argument that had the welfare of his first batch of children been an issue than he should have stayed in the damn marriage to the end. Having a parent get remarried, even if the children are adults and the first spouse died of natural causes can still be a very traumatic experience that can screw up family relations. I think it is far too simplistic and shallow to even hint that Jeff?€™s first batch of children are all alright because he pays money for them to live a decent standard of living. Money should not be thought of as a cure all or as an acceptable excuse for family wrecking behavior. The fact that he is financially responsible for his first family should not be noteworthy-it is a basic expectation and is in many ways similar to someone bragging about having never been to jail-that is the expectation, there is nothing to brag about. I know Jeff is highly thought of here in Korea and even read an editorial a few years ago arguing that he be granted a cabinet position in the Korean government. He has spoken at the company I work at and seems to be well respected. Despite the fact that there is a reasonable possibility that the Korean press may have reported this in a irresponsible manner, I still think using one?€™s small children like that is pathetic.
All this draft talk is nonsense because it ignores a large group of Korean draft dodgers-the lab rat people. I am informed that one way to dodge the draft here in Korea is to get quickly thru one?€™s BA degree in a science field and then move quickly into and complete at least a masters program in a science field and then go work in an RD center for a Korean company. I have friends that have done this. They are required to be in the reserves later but I do not think they even really have to attend anything like boot camp. Military service, I think, can also be avoided if one quickly becomes a PhD. While I understand the philosophy of these people being rewarded for contributing to Korean technology and the economy, it smacks too much of favoritism. Why should one group be allowed to get on with their life, get married, start a career and sit in an air conditioned/heated office while the others that did not/could not pursue the same educational track are beat upon and forced to taste feces? My son does not have Korean citizenship for this very reason nor do I anticipate seeking it for him. I am not opposed to some form of national service and realize that there is still the real possibility that my son may eventually be drafted into the US military, all indications at this point in time lead me to believe that if he has to be drafted into one or the other, the US military would be preferable.
Oranckay Da First sez:(I?€™m pro draft, btw, though I understand why militaires are often against it for practical reasons.)
Yeah, sez the guy who wasn’t drafted and lived all his adult life away from US teritory… Those who were drafted and had to clean toilets and generally suffer idiots in uniforms for xx months usually are against the draft, for a very good reason.
Wow, this has turned out to be one of the most fascinating Marmot threads I’ve read in a couple of weeks! Who would’ve thunk it?
James: I assume you mean get a BSc degree, not a BA degree.
dda: What’s the deal with that French woman who used to appear on variety and talk shows? I actually kind of like her, as foreign TV celebrities go, but haven’t seen her around in a while.
Would you believe that of all the recent posts, this is now the longest thread since “Leaving for Pyongyang”? And it’s not even about a “hot” topic. Jeffrey Jones is getting more play than BoA.
BoA as in Bank of America?
Stefan: Ida Daucy [not her real name apparently, it's Ida something else, I think] gave birth to a second kid late last year [she may be a supposedly Korean citizen, but still went back "home" to give birth to the kid, so (s)he'd get French citizenship :-)] and has had apparently a hard time coming back. I suppose the “cuteness” of her ‘orrible French accent has faded…
My wife couldn’t stand her accent! She sounded to her like a little bird or something. I didn’t mind so much, as she was treated like a Korean talent on the shows I watched, and not as some kind of exotic display.
Hmmmm, not sure about that last bit Stefan. The very reason she appeared on so many shows was her wild accent. Sounds “cute” or whatever. I know someone who alternated for a bit with her on a daily morning show on radio, and apparently the feedback from the public was that the guy spoke Korean so well, it wasn’t fun listening to him [as in: why hire this guy if he doesn't sound Korean?]. So the accent [of course this was radio] was the main attraction. Talk about circus…
Would you believe that of all the recent posts, this is now the longest thread since ?€œLeaving for Pyongyang?€?? And it?€™s not even about a ?€œhot?€? topic. Jeffrey Jones is getting more play than BoA.
Dammit! Now he’s gone and sucked up all the air in this room, too.
dda wrote:
Hmmmm, not sure about that last bit Stefan. The very reason she appeared on so many shows was her wild accent.
Yeah, and isn’t that a primary fascination with Robert Holley as well? That is, the accent rather than the personality? Most folks I know who listen to him speak don’t seem very interested in what he has to say, but rather how he says it.
dda ecrit:
Hmmmm, not sure about that last bit Stefan. The very reason she appeared on so many shows was her wild accent.
Ah, I stand corrected. So the main reason she was so popular was precisely the reason my wife couldn’t stand her?
…and apparently the feedback from the public was that the guy spoke Korean so well, it wasn?€™t fun listening to him….So the accent [of course this was radio] was the main attraction. Talk about circus…
Circus indeed!
gbnhj wrote:
Yeah, and isn?€™t that a primary fascination with Robert Holley as well? That is, the accent rather than the personality? Most folks I know who listen to him speak don?€™t seem very interested in what he has to say, but rather how he says it.
Is the one who also speaks in dialect? (Don’t know; never seen him.)
…and apparently the feedback from the public was that the guy spoke Korean so well, it wasn?€™t fun listening to him….
You know, this is a perfect example of why reading The Marmot’s Hole has been such an eye-opener for me. Sheesh, what’s the point of trying to speak Korean well if you’ll only be appreciated for not sounding like a Korean!?
Yes, Curious, that’s him. He uses ?¶€??° ????????? to great effect. I once saw him with his daughter on an episode of ‘????¹??™€ ??¨???’ (seems like a nice guy), and he’s sometimes on entertainment programs, but he’s usually on the radio - with that amusing accent.
Yeah, that is him. I have had the pleasure of getting to know Mr. Holley although not too closely and have to say that he is just like any other foreigner that has lived here in Korea for a long time. For Koreans, there are two attractions possibly three that make him worth mentioning. The first is that when he speaks Korean, he does so with a very good Pusan dialect. The second is that he is a lawyer (although the question I often ask others is if the fact that he is a lawyer is so great, why does he not occupy himself doing legal work? it really doesn’t matter but I do wonder how successful he was at it…). The last thing that may or may not be noteworthy is that he set up the only international school in Kwangju which makes him someone who can be seen as contributing significantly to the education system of Korea. Whether or not it is really noteworthy is arguable. He is very nice guy with some funny stories to tell about living in Korea-but then don’t we all have some of those stories?
Yeah, that is him. I have had the pleasure of getting to know Mr. Holley although not too closely and have to say that he is just like any other foreigner that has lived here in Korea for a long time.
In other words, there’s something really wrong with the guy.
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