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		<title>By: yen to dollar exchange rate</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/06/11/multinational-romance-redux/#comment-18334</link>
		<dc:creator>yen to dollar exchange rate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: will work for sex</title>
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		<dc:creator>will work for sex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germans don't stare at foreigners, the yjust burn the dorms where they sleep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Play Party Poker for Fun</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grendel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife is Korean, too. In Germany, there haven't been many people "staring", not one publicly disapproving of us or anything else. It was an issue in Korea though. For example, there was an old man waiting with us at a bus station. When he noticed that we were a couple, he stared at me (at a distance of about 40cm from my face), perhaps he thought he could stare/scare me away, I don't know. There have been other "incidents" almost every time we've visited Korea, but I guess it's just the normal transition of a people mixing with other cultures. I live in D?¼sseldorf a city close to the border to the Netherlands that has a foreign population of 20%. It's quite common here to see foreigners and mixed coulples, but the number of foreigners in Korea is less than 1%. When the numbers increase, the prejudice will go away all by itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife is Korean, too. In Germany, there haven&#8217;t been many people &#8220;staring&#8221;, not one publicly disapproving of us or anything else. It was an issue in Korea though. For example, there was an old man waiting with us at a bus station. When he noticed that we were a couple, he stared at me (at a distance of about 40cm from my face), perhaps he thought he could stare/scare me away, I don&#8217;t know. There have been other &#8220;incidents&#8221; almost every time we&#8217;ve visited Korea, but I guess it&#8217;s just the normal transition of a people mixing with other cultures. I live in D?¼sseldorf a city close to the border to the Netherlands that has a foreign population of 20%. It&#8217;s quite common here to see foreigners and mixed coulples, but the number of foreigners in Korea is less than 1%. When the numbers increase, the prejudice will go away all by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, i doubt anyone will read this late posting, but again my two pennies:

I think it's rather funny how there is a lot of enmity against the Japanese even though they are our(korean) paekche colonists (haha!).  Probably Japanese are much more closely related to Koreans than Koreans are to the Mongols.

I thought that the Mongols would be rather flattered that Koreans think their ancestral homeland/culture is from Mongolia (birthplace of civilization and all that jazz), but I never thought that they would take this as an assimilationist attack on Mongolian culture.  Irony upon irony is that the Korean people have the same chip on their shoulder from the Chinese  Japanese, but instead of fuming that Group A is nothing like Group B, they argue that Group A IS FROM Group B.

My 90 year old grandmother used to tell me stories about how life was like in Manchura (during Japanese occupation of course.)  She actually liked the Japanese soldiers.  Regarding the Manchurians(Chinese) she said that they were all barbarians.  She came to this conclusion because at the time, the local people did not bury the dead like confucian Koreans did.  She would say that she saw stray dogs carry around the corpses of dead babies into towns--and that it was absolutely disgusting.  Funny thing is, this was of course, the Korean tradition before Chinese customs came to Korea.  

Irony after irony... The Arabs and Israelis killing each other...  And of course, despite U.S. "victories" against Mexico, in another 100 years, US will probably be largely Mexican in demographics...  Thus the wheel of human history turns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, i doubt anyone will read this late posting, but again my two pennies:</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s rather funny how there is a lot of enmity against the Japanese even though they are our(korean) paekche colonists (haha!).  Probably Japanese are much more closely related to Koreans than Koreans are to the Mongols.</p>
<p>I thought that the Mongols would be rather flattered that Koreans think their ancestral homeland/culture is from Mongolia (birthplace of civilization and all that jazz), but I never thought that they would take this as an assimilationist attack on Mongolian culture.  Irony upon irony is that the Korean people have the same chip on their shoulder from the Chinese  Japanese, but instead of fuming that Group A is nothing like Group B, they argue that Group A IS FROM Group B.</p>
<p>My 90 year old grandmother used to tell me stories about how life was like in Manchura (during Japanese occupation of course.)  She actually liked the Japanese soldiers.  Regarding the Manchurians(Chinese) she said that they were all barbarians.  She came to this conclusion because at the time, the local people did not bury the dead like confucian Koreans did.  She would say that she saw stray dogs carry around the corpses of dead babies into towns&#8211;and that it was absolutely disgusting.  Funny thing is, this was of course, the Korean tradition before Chinese customs came to Korea.  </p>
<p>Irony after irony&#8230; The Arabs and Israelis killing each other&#8230;  And of course, despite U.S. &#8220;victories&#8221; against Mexico, in another 100 years, US will probably be largely Mexican in demographics&#8230;  Thus the wheel of human history turns.</p>
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		<title>By: nabetz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, my fellow blogger (handle = MONGOL), a Mongolian who lived in Hungary for a while, attests that some Hungarians have the "Mongolian spot" too (makes sense, given history). A friend of mine, a Mexican, married a Taiwanese (ethnically Chinese), and their kid has the spot. My goodness, we're ALL Mongolian! 

I don't know what it is, but everybody in Asia seems to want to be related to teh Mongolians in some way or another. I work with a lot of Asians, particularly Koreans and Chinese, and most claim that their own race is directly related to the Mongolian race. One of my co-workers is constantly talking about how much his culture has to do with Mongolian culture, etc. This seems to have percolated pretty deeply into the national Korean psyche given the fact that he perceives Mongolians and Koreans to be virtually the same not only racially but culturally.

Then there are some of the Chinese that I've talked to. They either say that 1) they came from the Monglians (a minority view), or that 2) the Mongolians came from them. In any event, most of the Chinese that I've talked to make the same assmption that the Koreans do about being intimately related to the Mongolians ethnically and culturally. In fact, hardly without exception, Chinese simply assume, when they find out Mongol's Mongolian, that she speaks Mandarin (to their credit, Koreans do not assume that she speaks Korean). Perhaps they're confusing her with the inner Mongolians who have been afflicted with Han colonization over the past few centuries. Suffice it to say that she knows more Spanish (not much) than she does Chinese.

Given what Korean and Chinese opinions of the Mongolian race/culture thing are, if we do a bit of critical thinking, the Chinese and Koreans SHOULD think that they are related to one another (through the Mongolians) AND be quite proud of that fact. But there seems to be very little love between the two. Anyway...

Personally, for what it's worth, in my travels to Mongolia, I have been struck with how different the Mongolians seems from any other cultural group I've ever met. Not Asian. Not European. Oh, and not Hungarian or Mexican. They're definitly their own people and have a strong national identity. 

My opinion: If it weren't for the shared asiatic physical features, I wonder if the Chinese and Koreans would notice much similarity to the Mongolians at all. I seriously doubt it. The cultures are simply lightyears apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, my fellow blogger (handle = MONGOL), a Mongolian who lived in Hungary for a while, attests that some Hungarians have the &#8220;Mongolian spot&#8221; too (makes sense, given history). A friend of mine, a Mexican, married a Taiwanese (ethnically Chinese), and their kid has the spot. My goodness, we&#8217;re ALL Mongolian! </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what it is, but everybody in Asia seems to want to be related to teh Mongolians in some way or another. I work with a lot of Asians, particularly Koreans and Chinese, and most claim that their own race is directly related to the Mongolian race. One of my co-workers is constantly talking about how much his culture has to do with Mongolian culture, etc. This seems to have percolated pretty deeply into the national Korean psyche given the fact that he perceives Mongolians and Koreans to be virtually the same not only racially but culturally.</p>
<p>Then there are some of the Chinese that I&#8217;ve talked to. They either say that 1) they came from the Monglians (a minority view), or that 2) the Mongolians came from them. In any event, most of the Chinese that I&#8217;ve talked to make the same assmption that the Koreans do about being intimately related to the Mongolians ethnically and culturally. In fact, hardly without exception, Chinese simply assume, when they find out Mongol&#8217;s Mongolian, that she speaks Mandarin (to their credit, Koreans do not assume that she speaks Korean). Perhaps they&#8217;re confusing her with the inner Mongolians who have been afflicted with Han colonization over the past few centuries. Suffice it to say that she knows more Spanish (not much) than she does Chinese.</p>
<p>Given what Korean and Chinese opinions of the Mongolian race/culture thing are, if we do a bit of critical thinking, the Chinese and Koreans SHOULD think that they are related to one another (through the Mongolians) AND be quite proud of that fact. But there seems to be very little love between the two. Anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>Personally, for what it&#8217;s worth, in my travels to Mongolia, I have been struck with how different the Mongolians seems from any other cultural group I&#8217;ve ever met. Not Asian. Not European. Oh, and not Hungarian or Mexican. They&#8217;re definitly their own people and have a strong national identity. </p>
<p>My opinion: If it weren&#8217;t for the shared asiatic physical features, I wonder if the Chinese and Koreans would notice much similarity to the Mongolians at all. I seriously doubt it. The cultures are simply lightyears apart.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a physical anthropological point of view, the blue spot commonly referred to as a Mongolian Spot is also common with Eskimo and native North American people and surprisingly enough with people from Latin America that have some aboriginal ancestors. That does not make those people Mongolian and while it is arguable that there is a common ancestor that crossed the land bridge and went all the way to Peru and the jungles of the Amazon to try and equate that to them being Mongolian goes too far. 
Koreans as a group tend to exhibit certain characteristics such as: shorter legs and a proportionately longer trunk; the extra fat over the eyes (removed to enhance the fold of the eyelids); lack of a protruding chin (which is structurally stronger) and shovel shaped incisors. The fat over the eyes and the elongated trunk in particular point to an extremely cold environment as a source of origin for the ancestors of the people that inhabit the Korean peninsula-not different from the Northern Steps of Asia. Short of a DNA analysis, I think it is difficult to conclude more from the physiology of Koreans than this. Admittedly, the amount that I know about Mongolia is embarrassingly scant so I am not going to speculate as to what percentage of the population might share these same traits but I would be interested to know. Koreans in general, are the tallest group in Asia. I have not seen anything that attributes that to one specific source but I speculate that it shows that Koreans are not Mongolians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a physical anthropological point of view, the blue spot commonly referred to as a Mongolian Spot is also common with Eskimo and native North American people and surprisingly enough with people from Latin America that have some aboriginal ancestors. That does not make those people Mongolian and while it is arguable that there is a common ancestor that crossed the land bridge and went all the way to Peru and the jungles of the Amazon to try and equate that to them being Mongolian goes too far.<br />
Koreans as a group tend to exhibit certain characteristics such as: shorter legs and a proportionately longer trunk; the extra fat over the eyes (removed to enhance the fold of the eyelids); lack of a protruding chin (which is structurally stronger) and shovel shaped incisors. The fat over the eyes and the elongated trunk in particular point to an extremely cold environment as a source of origin for the ancestors of the people that inhabit the Korean peninsula-not different from the Northern Steps of Asia. Short of a DNA analysis, I think it is difficult to conclude more from the physiology of Koreans than this. Admittedly, the amount that I know about Mongolia is embarrassingly scant so I am not going to speculate as to what percentage of the population might share these same traits but I would be interested to know. Koreans in general, are the tallest group in Asia. I have not seen anything that attributes that to one specific source but I speculate that it shows that Koreans are not Mongolians.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaruul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People?€? I am not a guy by the way. 1. I am not against interracial marriages that based on true love, but not 20 to 30 year age apart. Don?€™t you think that is obvious??? 

2. It says that 1 out of 200 people in the world can be traced genetically to Chingis Khan. That does not make you a Chingis Khan nor Mongolian. Japanese people insist that they also related to Mongolians because of blue spot. You are not the only one who is born with a blue spot.

3. If you all insist that Koreans and Mongolian are related, why aren?€™t you helping us or doing something better then taking nude pictures?????? Korean Business Men in Mongolia were very rude and bossy to local Mongolian employees. 

4. As far it comes to cultural exchanges, I am not against it and I can?€™t control or tell what Mongolian next generation wants. But surely we don?€™t wish marriages with old nasty men or nude picture or any other sickness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People?€? I am not a guy by the way. 1. I am not against interracial marriages that based on true love, but not 20 to 30 year age apart. Don?€™t you think that is obvious??? </p>
<p>2. It says that 1 out of 200 people in the world can be traced genetically to Chingis Khan. That does not make you a Chingis Khan nor Mongolian. Japanese people insist that they also related to Mongolians because of blue spot. You are not the only one who is born with a blue spot.</p>
<p>3. If you all insist that Koreans and Mongolian are related, why aren?€™t you helping us or doing something better then taking nude pictures?????? Korean Business Men in Mongolia were very rude and bossy to local Mongolian employees. </p>
<p>4. As far it comes to cultural exchanges, I am not against it and I can?€™t control or tell what Mongolian next generation wants. But surely we don?€™t wish marriages with old nasty men or nude picture or any other sickness.</p>
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		<title>By: zhang_fei</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>solongo: Mongolians eat meat-beef lamb,good wholesome wheat bread, dark bread,salami(hiam) everyday,Koreans eat (kimchi everyday)

I think I've just figured out why the Mongolian women in the photos were so well-endowed, which is quite unusual for non-Mongolian Asian women who haven't been to cosmetic surgeons. Meat products day in and day out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>solongo: Mongolians eat meat-beef lamb,good wholesome wheat bread, dark bread,salami(hiam) everyday,Koreans eat (kimchi everyday)</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve just figured out why the Mongolian women in the photos were so well-endowed, which is quite unusual for non-Mongolian Asian women who haven&#8217;t been to cosmetic surgeons. Meat products day in and day out.</p>
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