Comments on: A Modest Proposal: The Marmot Irregulars

By: Kushibo

Kushibo — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:34:12 +0000

It’s also possible that it was supposed to be written a certain way but they just made mistakes.

There are, in fact, a lot of mistakes with the NAKL system. Google “Suweon” or “Weonju,” for example.

By: Curious (a.k.a. Sewing)

Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:03:45 +0000

Kushibo, you are correct. In their 1939 RASKB paper, McCune and Reischauer give numerous examples of the representation of ?????´ ??œ??·, and following their pattern, ??“?°€??½ would indeed be romanized in their system as “chkkarak.”

My secret is that when I’m not sure of a romanized spelling, I look it up in an old English-Korean dictionary I have that was written using the 1984 system. For “chopsticks,” it gave “chtkarak” with a “t.” Then again, while the 1984 system is similar to McCune-Reischauer, it is not identical.

By: Curious (a.k.a. Sewing)

Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:46:06 +0000

Actually they write the second pronunciation as ??€??·?¹Œ??½ with the ??· under the ??€ (which I can’t do cause my MS Korean IME won’t let me and I’m too lazy to look up the Unicode for that syllable), even though ?…… is used in the ?‘œ?¤€ ?°œ??Œ?²? to represent the “t” final sound.

By: Curious (a.k.a. Sewing)

Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:44:01 +0000

Not sure offhand about the original 1939 McCune-Reischauer system, but the 1984 South Korean system does not appear to have assimilated sai s(h)iot to the following consonant, even though in Korean, it is in fact assimilated.

Then again, is not the primary rule of McC.-R. (and certainly of the ALA-LC guidelines that are based on it) to reflect pronunciation above all else? Then yes, it should be chkkarak, although my Kug Sajn gives both ??€?¹Œ??½ and ??“?¹Œ??½ as acceptable pronunciations of ??“?°€??½.

By: Kushibo

Kushibo — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:05:02 +0000

I think it’s ch??kkarak. Not sure, though.

By: Curious (a.k.a. Sewing)

Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:27:48 +0000

…Make that chtkarak. Forgot that McCune-Reischauer breves show up properly here.

By: Shelton Bumgarner

Shelton Bumgarner — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:27:22 +0000

Yes, that’s my ugly mug.

I thought if I put a funny, ugly American picture of me up there someone would take pity on me and help me out.

I miss that shirt though, it was pretty cool.

By: Curious (a.k.a. Sewing)

Curious (a.k.a. Sewing) — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:13:07 +0000

Shelton, is that you in the tie-dyed shirt? Dude, you’ve got “expat” written all over you! But the picture of you with the ssam and the metal chtkarak makes up for it.

By: Shelton Bumgarner

Shelton Bumgarner — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:09:15 +0000

I know…but I want someone here in Korea I could call and say, “Hey, could you run over to X that’s in the news and take a picture of Y?”

It could be months before I save up enough for my own digital camera.

But you have a point — that would be nice to have ready access to some Korea-based stock photography.

By: c(h)ristine

c(h)ristine — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:56:48 +0000

you could use flickr (www.flickr.com) and blog pictures off of that. i usually blog my own photographs, but often get the blessing of other people (with awesome photographs) and use their photographs to illustrate my blog posts.