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	<title>Comments on: And the award for most useless report about North Korea goes to&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/06/10/and-the-award-for-most-useless-report-about-north-korea-goes-to/#comment-18293</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually gave away precious moments of my life to Real Player so that I could watch this before I blogged it.  The questions that were not asked are much more illustrative than the ones that were.  At one point, as the journos are driving toward the DMZ with their guide, they actually heard gunshots off to the right.  No one asked a single question about it.

Since I don't think these men are stupid or incompetent, 
there are two ways to explain this:  (1) as the Pulitzer-winning NYT reporter John Burns explained, journalists who want "exclusive" access have a powerful temptation to pitch softball questions; or (2) outright intimidation of journalists who get too inquisitive.  This happened to another ABC reporter who visited Pyongyang with the Korean Friendship Assocation several years ago.  In his case, they seized all his tapes, busted his equipment, put him under room-arrest, and put him through an interrogation session.

ABC's report wasn't completely devoid of interesting content, but I wish they were half as skeptical of the North Koreans as they are at Pentagon news conferences.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually gave away precious moments of my life to Real Player so that I could watch this before I blogged it.  The questions that were not asked are much more illustrative than the ones that were.  At one point, as the journos are driving toward the DMZ with their guide, they actually heard gunshots off to the right.  No one asked a single question about it.</p>
<p>Since I don&#8217;t think these men are stupid or incompetent,<br />
there are two ways to explain this:  (1) as the Pulitzer-winning NYT reporter John Burns explained, journalists who want &#8220;exclusive&#8221; access have a powerful temptation to pitch softball questions; or (2) outright intimidation of journalists who get too inquisitive.  This happened to another ABC reporter who visited Pyongyang with the Korean Friendship Assocation several years ago.  In his case, they seized all his tapes, busted his equipment, put him under room-arrest, and put him through an interrogation session.</p>
<p>ABC&#8217;s report wasn&#8217;t completely devoid of interesting content, but I wish they were half as skeptical of the North Koreans as they are at Pentagon news conferences.</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
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		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not just Gwan [never a ?´€æ°? anyway...]. Other names quoted Kim Mee-Kyong are thereafter shortened as Kyong. The guy's just an ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just Gwan [never a ?´€æ°? anyway...]. Other names quoted Kim Mee-Kyong are thereafter shortened as Kyong. The guy&#8217;s just an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Kushibo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the "Gwan" thing and wondered that myself. Could it be possible, though, that the guy's given name actually was Kimgye? Maybe a nod to the Great Leader?

Some transcriber at ABC made an honest mistake in writing that, but was wrong to not fact-check it. But I will say it can be confusing. There are a lot of places where the last-given name order is reversed to "Western" style of given-last. The Japanese do this A LOT in Western contexts. 

And then, dividing up the given name into two separate syllables as if they are two separate names is another part of the problem. Kim Gye Gwan. Are we to believe people called him Gye? No, his name is Gyegwan (and I suspect it should be spelled Kyegwan).

Even the misguided NAKL calls for people to close up the gap in the given names, dividing them only by an optional hyphen and only when it's necessary to distinguish between two possible interpretations: Ha-eon versus Hae-on, for example (which are nonsense names, by the way).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the &#8220;Gwan&#8221; thing and wondered that myself. Could it be possible, though, that the guy&#8217;s given name actually was Kimgye? Maybe a nod to the Great Leader?</p>
<p>Some transcriber at ABC made an honest mistake in writing that, but was wrong to not fact-check it. But I will say it can be confusing. There are a lot of places where the last-given name order is reversed to &#8220;Western&#8221; style of given-last. The Japanese do this A LOT in Western contexts. </p>
<p>And then, dividing up the given name into two separate syllables as if they are two separate names is another part of the problem. Kim Gye Gwan. Are we to believe people called him Gye? No, his name is Gyegwan (and I suspect it should be spelled Kyegwan).</p>
<p>Even the misguided NAKL calls for people to close up the gap in the given names, dividing them only by an optional hyphen and only when it&#8217;s necessary to distinguish between two possible interpretations: Ha-eon versus Hae-on, for example (which are nonsense names, by the way).</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished editing my blog entry on this piece of ... news.

I had to go back and delete some of the cuss words I liberally put into the orignial post.

I'll leave it at that here, because I can't go back and edit comments I make here........

 ABC Sucks 

&lt;a href="http://www.koreasojourner.blog-city.com/just_when_you_think_its_safe_to_go_back_into_the_water.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.koreasojourner.blog-city.com/just_when_you_think_its_safe_to_go_back_into_the_water.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished editing my blog entry on this piece of &#8230; news.</p>
<p>I had to go back and delete some of the cuss words I liberally put into the orignial post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave it at that here, because I can&#8217;t go back and edit comments I make here&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p> ABC Sucks </p>
<p><a href="http://www.koreasojourner.blog-city.com/just_when_you_think_its_safe_to_go_back_into_the_water.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.koreasojourner.blog....._water.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott-in-Japan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott-in-Japan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Journalists" in the USA are (almost) the stupidest people around.  Followed closely by people who run from the police, then are surprised they get beaten.  Besides, no one watches broadcast tv news anymore - I'm surprised anyone bothered to bring a camera on the trip to NK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Journalists&#8221; in the USA are (almost) the stupidest people around.  Followed closely by people who run from the police, then are surprised they get beaten.  Besides, no one watches broadcast tv news anymore - I&#8217;m surprised anyone bothered to bring a camera on the trip to NK.</p>
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		<title>By: hardyandtiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardyandtiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more ajumma the less cost. Potential brides equal less hardship. 5 years and very little money. The whole re-unification process will be very Tim Duncan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more ajumma the less cost. Potential brides equal less hardship. 5 years and very little money. The whole re-unification process will be very Tim Duncan.</p>
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		<title>By: Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/06/10/and-the-award-for-most-useless-report-about-north-korea-goes-to/#comment-18287</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did he seriously say that!?  Not exactly an earth-shattering revelation....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he seriously say that!?  Not exactly an earth-shattering revelation&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelMichael</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC: "There are no American products in the markets and no American programs on television." Pulitzer Prize material, I tell ya....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABC: &#8220;There are no American products in the markets and no American programs on television.&#8221; Pulitzer Prize material, I tell ya&#8230;.</p>
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