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	<title>Comments on: Native English speakers to invade Korean middle schools</title>
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		<title>By: Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/30/native-english-speakers-to-invade-korean-middle-schools/#comment-17333</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I've set the obvious joke up for Baduk, we can just wait for him to come in provide the punchline.... :lol:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I&#8217;ve set the obvious joke up for Baduk, we can just wait for him to come in provide the punchline&#8230;. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/30/native-english-speakers-to-invade-korean-middle-schools/#comment-17332</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, we're getting sidetracked here.  I agree: broadly speaking, they do converge on something like a refined, standard accent, which would be somewhere in the middle.

(Of course, in some people's books, the combination of the PBS, a Canadian, and Dan Rather is unappetizing ;), but I'm interested here in the mechanics of the way the speak.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, we&#8217;re getting sidetracked here.  I agree: broadly speaking, they do converge on something like a refined, standard accent, which would be somewhere in the middle.</p>
<p>(Of course, in some people&#8217;s books, the combination of the PBS, a Canadian, and Dan Rather is unappetizing ;), but I&#8217;m interested here in the mechanics of the way the speak.)</p>
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		<title>By: Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes, although I can still detect a Texan drawl in the one and a definite CBC accent (I mean that in a positive way, for those who know what I mean) in the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, although I can still detect a Texan drawl in the one and a definite CBC accent (I mean that in a positive way, for those who know what I mean) in the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Kushibo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Curious, Peter Jennings and Dan Rather tone down their respective accents when they do the news. They Midwesternize their pronunciation quite a lot (except Jennings does let oat an 'aboat' every now and then).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Curious, Peter Jennings and Dan Rather tone down their respective accents when they do the news. They Midwesternize their pronunciation quite a lot (except Jennings does let oat an &#8216;aboat&#8217; every now and then).</p>
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		<title>By: Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/30/native-english-speakers-to-invade-korean-middle-schools/#comment-17329</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I should add that I would suspect that national newscasts in any language are probably as close as you're going to get to what could arguably be considered to be that language's spoken standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I should add that I would suspect that national newscasts in any language are probably as close as you&#8217;re going to get to what could arguably be considered to be that language&#8217;s spoken standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virtual Wonderer:

Or so it was claimed (Midwestern as "standard") in the 1980s PBS documentary The Story of English.  On further examination, it may be a bit of a canard.  Check out this PBS page on Standard American English, which explores the issue more and calls into doubt the claim it's based on Midwestern speech.  (Hey, I'm not plugging PBS, but until ABC, CBS, or NBC explore this issue, you've gotta go with what's available!)

Yesterday, I was almost going to cite national newscasts as examples of "Standard American English," but seeing as Dan Rather and Jim Lehrer are Texan and Peter Jennings is Canadian, this casts some doubt on the Midwestern theory.

Regarding British beer, I'd better not go there.  I'll just say that, being a lager man, the only beer I've ever drunk over in the UK was Stella (imported from Belgium) and Tiger (from Singapore, I believe)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virtual Wonderer:</p>
<p>Or so it was claimed (Midwestern as &#8220;standard&#8221;) in the 1980s PBS documentary The Story of English.  On further examination, it may be a bit of a canard.  Check out this PBS page on Standard American English, which explores the issue more and calls into doubt the claim it&#8217;s based on Midwestern speech.  (Hey, I&#8217;m not plugging PBS, but until ABC, CBS, or NBC explore this issue, you&#8217;ve gotta go with what&#8217;s available!)</p>
<p>Yesterday, I was almost going to cite national newscasts as examples of &#8220;Standard American English,&#8221; but seeing as Dan Rather and Jim Lehrer are Texan and Peter Jennings is Canadian, this casts some doubt on the Midwestern theory.</p>
<p>Regarding British beer, I&#8217;d better not go there.  I&#8217;ll just say that, being a lager man, the only beer I&#8217;ve ever drunk over in the UK was Stella (imported from Belgium) and Tiger (from Singapore, I believe)!</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Simonfalvi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/30/native-english-speakers-to-invade-korean-middle-schools/#comment-17327</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Simonfalvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I've made a mistake here and I do apologize. The proper link is

&lt;a href="http://dekita.org/weblog/native-teachers-or-non-native-teachers" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://dekita.org/weblog/native-teachers-or-non-native-teachers&lt;/a&gt;

Leslie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I&#8217;ve made a mistake here and I do apologize. The proper link is</p>
<p><a href="http://dekita.org/weblog/native-teachers-or-non-native-teachers" rel="nofollow">http://dekita.org/weblog/nativ.....e-teachers</a></p>
<p>Leslie</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Simonfalvi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie Simonfalvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello

I'm Leslie and I'm new here. A similar topic came up at Dekita the other day and I want to share it with you. It is totally independent from Korea or any other country.
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Bye

Leslie ittdc@mail.tvnet.hu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Leslie and I&#8217;m new here. A similar topic came up at Dekita the other day and I want to share it with you. It is totally independent from Korea or any other country.<br />
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Bye</p>
<p>Leslie <a href="mailto:ittdc@mail.tvnet.hu">ittdc@mail.tvnet.hu</a></p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious,
I never knew that!  Hmm.  Interesting.  I always associated Midwestern accent with Fargo.  They say that Long Island people have the Long-G island accent (maybe Marmot has this too, i donno) but I never knew what that was.  

All I know is that a lot of Korean students gets confused with Queens english, etc.  I think the most useful english for them to learn is probably american TV english, aka midwestern english as you guys say.  But this is probably discussed tons of times somewhere before so I'll stop here.

You know, I was watching "The Office" (original BBC version) and I noticed that all these Brit characters were going, "Waaaasssaaaap~~"  (out of American Budweiser commercials.)  Are there any Brits who can explain to me this phenomena?  I would imagine you guys have better beers to drink, and hence very little exposure to Bud commercials.  Hmm..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious,<br />
I never knew that!  Hmm.  Interesting.  I always associated Midwestern accent with Fargo.  They say that Long Island people have the Long-G island accent (maybe Marmot has this too, i donno) but I never knew what that was.  </p>
<p>All I know is that a lot of Korean students gets confused with Queens english, etc.  I think the most useful english for them to learn is probably american TV english, aka midwestern english as you guys say.  But this is probably discussed tons of times somewhere before so I&#8217;ll stop here.</p>
<p>You know, I was watching &#8220;The Office&#8221; (original BBC version) and I noticed that all these Brit characters were going, &#8220;Waaaasssaaaap~~&#8221;  (out of American Budweiser commercials.)  Are there any Brits who can explain to me this phenomena?  I would imagine you guys have better beers to drink, and hence very little exposure to Bud commercials.  Hmm..</p>
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		<title>By: KrZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KrZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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Flame on</description>
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<p>Flame on</p>
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