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		<title>By: Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16978</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious  (a.k.a. Sewing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 23:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it's worth, I have nothing against non-Microsoft programs or operating systems.  I experimented with Linux in the past and I use UNIX (partially) at work, but I guess I'm just too set in my ways to make the big switch from Windows, etc. to anything else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I have nothing against non-Microsoft programs or operating systems.  I experimented with Linux in the past and I use UNIX (partially) at work, but I guess I&#8217;m just too set in my ways to make the big switch from Windows, etc. to anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: KrZ</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16977</link>
		<dc:creator>KrZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 18:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the only thing that ever caused a kernel panic on OS X was the MS Office 2K4 installer.  After the panic, instead of immediately booting up, the folder logo would flash for a few seconds before the system located the correct sector on the hard disk.  I reinstalled the operating system, reset the PRAM, zeroed the hard-drive: nothing.  MS Office successfully anally-raped a system which had never crashed, and which had only been rebooted when the occassional system patch came out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the only thing that ever caused a kernel panic on OS X was the MS Office 2K4 installer.  After the panic, instead of immediately booting up, the folder logo would flash for a few seconds before the system located the correct sector on the hard disk.  I reinstalled the operating system, reset the PRAM, zeroed the hard-drive: nothing.  MS Office successfully anally-raped a system which had never crashed, and which had only been rebooted when the occassional system patch came out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16976</link>
		<dc:creator>Kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the evil Elex days!

Things are better. They have a strategy; they have Apple Centers; they have service centers that actually give a rat's ass (despite being an authorized Apple service center, they wouldn't fix an Apple laser writer I had because Elex, as an Apple reseller, never actually sold that particular model of laser printer; "Take it back to the States and have it fixed," I was told). 

With Elex in charge, it's a wonder anyone was using Macs back then.

I still use Word and Powerpoint. But I'm doing "corporate" stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the evil Elex days!</p>
<p>Things are better. They have a strategy; they have Apple Centers; they have service centers that actually give a rat&#8217;s ass (despite being an authorized Apple service center, they wouldn&#8217;t fix an Apple laser writer I had because Elex, as an Apple reseller, never actually sold that particular model of laser printer; &#8220;Take it back to the States and have it fixed,&#8221; I was told). </p>
<p>With Elex in charge, it&#8217;s a wonder anyone was using Macs back then.</p>
<p>I still use Word and Powerpoint. But I&#8217;m doing &#8220;corporate&#8221; stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16975</link>
		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 16:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience MS Word: Mac is still an inferior ported version of MS Word for Windows, and is often very slow on the Macintosh; plus Korean/Hanja support/spellchecking is vastly inferior to that on the Windows version. There are still some cases where Korean word processing is going to be easier on the PC, though Koreans themselves seem to do fine using Macs for page layout.
Correction: Office X is an inferior product, not the Mac itself, which is a superior platform... Apple never had a real Korean strategy, maybe it'll change now that they've had a branch for a few years (whi remembers the evil Elex days?).

I don't use much Word any more, as I don't do much corporate crap any longer, and am a happy Office-less fella. Most of my writing in Korean is now done in emails, so all is fine :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience MS Word: Mac is still an inferior ported version of MS Word for Windows, and is often very slow on the Macintosh; plus Korean/Hanja support/spellchecking is vastly inferior to that on the Windows version. There are still some cases where Korean word processing is going to be easier on the PC, though Koreans themselves seem to do fine using Macs for page layout.<br />
Correction: Office X is an inferior product, not the Mac itself, which is a superior platform&#8230; Apple never had a real Korean strategy, maybe it&#8217;ll change now that they&#8217;ve had a branch for a few years (whi remembers the evil Elex days?).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use much Word any more, as I don&#8217;t do much corporate crap any longer, and am a happy Office-less fella. Most of my writing in Korean is now done in emails, so all is fine <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16974</link>
		<dc:creator>Kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 07:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Office successfully anally-raped a system which had never crashed,"

Interesting story, KrZ. And, uh, interesting imagery.

When people who have had very smooth-running systems (their Mac) end up having buttloads of trouble thanks to another system (Microsoft), is it really any wonder that some become fanatical about the whole Mac-versus-Windows debate?

It is MS's predatory tactics, not their software, which have gotten them into the dominant position they're in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Office successfully anally-raped a system which had never crashed,&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting story, KrZ. And, uh, interesting imagery.</p>
<p>When people who have had very smooth-running systems (their Mac) end up having buttloads of trouble thanks to another system (Microsoft), is it really any wonder that some become fanatical about the whole Mac-versus-Windows debate?</p>
<p>It is MS&#8217;s predatory tactics, not their software, which have gotten them into the dominant position they&#8217;re in.</p>
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		<title>By: Kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16973</link>
		<dc:creator>Kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JYC wrote:
In my experience MS Word: Mac is still an inferior ported version of MS Word for Windows, and is often very slow on the Macintosh;I would agree, but it was not always this way. Sometime back in the 1990s you had Word for Windows and Word for Mac as two separate applications, with two different numbering systems. 

Around MS Word 6 (Macintosh) they tried to rework it to make it like the Windows version. Then in 1998 they actually started calling what would have been Word 7 "MS Word 98." 

The thing is that Word for Mac was superior to Word for Windows, but they basically lowered the next version of Word for Mac to make it like Word for Windows, and (I think) made the Mac version like an emulated Windows version. 

It was PAINFULLY slow (it would take five minutes or so to load up) and Microsoft had to send version 6.1 for free to everyone because of the complaints.

Of course, this "oversight" seemed part of Microsoft's strategy of reducing enthusiasm for Macs, by gutting and crapping all over the one good Mac program they made, which was also an essential Mac application.

The current edition of Office is much better, but it is still a humongous program, and the only program I still really have problems with on my Macs. I will thank Bill Gates for (finally) pushing the idea of cross-platform compatibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JYC wrote:<br />
In my experience MS Word: Mac is still an inferior ported version of MS Word for Windows, and is often very slow on the Macintosh;I would agree, but it was not always this way. Sometime back in the 1990s you had Word for Windows and Word for Mac as two separate applications, with two different numbering systems. </p>
<p>Around MS Word 6 (Macintosh) they tried to rework it to make it like the Windows version. Then in 1998 they actually started calling what would have been Word 7 &#8220;MS Word 98.&#8221; </p>
<p>The thing is that Word for Mac was superior to Word for Windows, but they basically lowered the next version of Word for Mac to make it like Word for Windows, and (I think) made the Mac version like an emulated Windows version. </p>
<p>It was PAINFULLY slow (it would take five minutes or so to load up) and Microsoft had to send version 6.1 for free to everyone because of the complaints.</p>
<p>Of course, this &#8220;oversight&#8221; seemed part of Microsoft&#8217;s strategy of reducing enthusiasm for Macs, by gutting and crapping all over the one good Mac program they made, which was also an essential Mac application.</p>
<p>The current edition of Office is much better, but it is still a humongous program, and the only program I still really have problems with on my Macs. I will thank Bill Gates for (finally) pushing the idea of cross-platform compatibility.</p>
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		<title>By: JYC</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16972</link>
		<dc:creator>JYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 23:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did gazillion of Word, Excel, PPT (and later Keynote) files while in Korea, never had a problem.

Made brochures and advertisings, letterheads and mailings. Websites.

In my experience MS Word: Mac is still an inferior ported version of MS Word for Windows, and is often very slow on the Macintosh; plus Korean/Hanja support/spellchecking is vastly inferior to that on the Windows version. There are still some cases where Korean word processing is going to be easier on the PC, though Koreans themselves seem to do fine using Macs for page layout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did gazillion of Word, Excel, PPT (and later Keynote) files while in Korea, never had a problem.</p>
<p>Made brochures and advertisings, letterheads and mailings. Websites.</p>
<p>In my experience MS Word: Mac is still an inferior ported version of MS Word for Windows, and is often very slow on the Macintosh; plus Korean/Hanja support/spellchecking is vastly inferior to that on the Windows version. There are still some cases where Korean word processing is going to be easier on the PC, though Koreans themselves seem to do fine using Macs for page layout.</p>
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		<title>By: JYC</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16971</link>
		<dc:creator>JYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 18:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally registered ...

Thank you DDA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally registered &#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you DDA.</p>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16970</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 10:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, third time lucky.  I can view the pages in neither Internet Explorer nor Opera, but they do show up quite well in Firefox, and the character look-up is fully functional.

Hmmm, now I should see if , , ,  (o- and u-breve majuscule and minuscule) show up correctly in Blogger, in Firefox on a Windows 2000 machine, as they do not show up properly in IE under such a set-up....  (Although they do show up on non-Blogger blogs, and in Windows 98, oddly enough....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, third time lucky.  I can view the pages in neither Internet Explorer nor Opera, but they do show up quite well in Firefox, and the character look-up is fully functional.</p>
<p>Hmmm, now I should see if , , ,  (o- and u-breve majuscule and minuscule) show up correctly in Blogger, in Firefox on a Windows 2000 machine, as they do not show up properly in IE under such a set-up&#8230;.  (Although they do show up on non-Blogger blogs, and in Windows 98, oddly enough&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/20/download-tomabaem-now/#comment-16969</link>
		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 17:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This *is* curious...
This part of the site is made with Drupal, so it's not like I went all the way to make it incompatible, like in some other places :-)

Could you download Firefox and try with it?

I checked on my wife's PeeCee, and lo and behold, it doesn't work, I olnly see the sidebar... Grrr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This *is* curious&#8230;<br />
This part of the site is made with Drupal, so it&#8217;s not like I went all the way to make it incompatible, like in some other places <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Could you download Firefox and try with it?</p>
<p>I checked on my wife&#8217;s PeeCee, and lo and behold, it doesn&#8217;t work, I olnly see the sidebar&#8230; Grrr!</p>
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