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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/02/tyrants-dangerous-men-hooligans-and-philistines/#comment-15704</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 03:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can admit that I can imagine a situation where calling a spade a spade would be detrimental to a potential avoiding of a problem or finding an adequate solution to a problem.

North Korea right now, however, is not such a situation.

I don't see any reason coming close to justifying burying the truth about North Korea or refusing to speak such truths out in the open.

In fact, I think there is more danger in not saying them.

As you said, there is already a significant portion of those interested in the situation --- in China, SK, and the US --- who have looked for and found what they believe are adequate justifications for blaming or giving co-blame to the US for the failure of reaching an agreement
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can admit that I can imagine a situation where calling a spade a spade would be detrimental to a potential avoiding of a problem or finding an adequate solution to a problem.</p>
<p>North Korea right now, however, is not such a situation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any reason coming close to justifying burying the truth about North Korea or refusing to speak such truths out in the open.</p>
<p>In fact, I think there is more danger in not saying them.</p>
<p>As you said, there is already a significant portion of those interested in the situation &#8212; in China, SK, and the US &#8212; who have looked for and found what they believe are adequate justifications for blaming or giving co-blame to the US for the failure of reaching an agreement</p>
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		<title>By: nora sumi park</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/02/tyrants-dangerous-men-hooligans-and-philistines/#comment-15703</link>
		<dc:creator>nora sumi park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 16:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why go through all that trouble?  Just nuke Pyong Yang and say that we need to spread democracy.  Or something like that. 
so when we talk about 'spreading democracy' the new definition of 'democracy' is now 'radioactivity'?

geez, i was just getting used to the old new definition of 'democracy' as 'violent insurgency.' 

(i think people might get tired of us spreading around democracy like that)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why go through all that trouble?  Just nuke Pyong Yang and say that we need to spread democracy.  Or something like that.<br />
so when we talk about &#8217;spreading democracy&#8217; the new definition of &#8216;democracy&#8217; is now &#8216;radioactivity&#8217;?</p>
<p>geez, i was just getting used to the old new definition of &#8216;democracy&#8217; as &#8216;violent insurgency.&#8217; </p>
<p>(i think people might get tired of us spreading around democracy like that)</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I think I would like to see a little more undignified name calling. Perhaps we can get Bush to give KJI the bird or something to which KJI might flash a little ass to tell Bush what he can kiss. THAT would be news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I think I would like to see a little more undignified name calling. Perhaps we can get Bush to give KJI the bird or something to which KJI might flash a little ass to tell Bush what he can kiss. THAT would be news.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/02/tyrants-dangerous-men-hooligans-and-philistines/#comment-15701</link>
		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 14:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>puhahaha... Baduk... 

Why go through all that trouble?  Just nuke Pyong Yang and say that we need to spread democracy.  Or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>puhahaha&#8230; Baduk&#8230; </p>
<p>Why go through all that trouble?  Just nuke Pyong Yang and say that we need to spread democracy.  Or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Zhang Fei</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/02/tyrants-dangerous-men-hooligans-and-philistines/#comment-15700</link>
		<dc:creator>Zhang Fei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul H: The word will sail right over the heads of 95% of average Americans (but then I realize they?€™re not the intended audience of the news release anyway).

95% of average Americans are either Christian, Jewish or Muslim. They know the meaning of the word philistine. As far as English language publications go, American papers are pitched at people with a 6th grade education. British papers are pitched at 3rd graders (in vocabulary and in tone). Aussie papers are roughly on par with British papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul H: The word will sail right over the heads of 95% of average Americans (but then I realize they?€™re not the intended audience of the news release anyway).</p>
<p>95% of average Americans are either Christian, Jewish or Muslim. They know the meaning of the word philistine. As far as English language publications go, American papers are pitched at people with a 6th grade education. British papers are pitched at 3rd graders (in vocabulary and in tone). Aussie papers are roughly on par with British papers.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/02/tyrants-dangerous-men-hooligans-and-philistines/#comment-15699</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 10:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scenario 2:

A stealth bomber gets stolen in Japan by ultranationalists.  TV news can broadcast the pictures of the stolen bomber and the made up pictures of hijackers.

So, everybody in the world knows a stealth bomber is hijacked but who knows what direction it is heading?  Even if they know, how can they prevent it?  No NK fighters can track a stealth bomber.  This stolen plane happened to have nuclear bombs on board for training purpose.

Thunderball, 007 James Bond.

PyungYang bye, bye.

The U.S. can protest  tongue in cheek to Japan about stealing American property</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scenario 2:</p>
<p>A stealth bomber gets stolen in Japan by ultranationalists.  TV news can broadcast the pictures of the stolen bomber and the made up pictures of hijackers.</p>
<p>So, everybody in the world knows a stealth bomber is hijacked but who knows what direction it is heading?  Even if they know, how can they prevent it?  No NK fighters can track a stealth bomber.  This stolen plane happened to have nuclear bombs on board for training purpose.</p>
<p>Thunderball, 007 James Bond.</p>
<p>PyungYang bye, bye.</p>
<p>The U.S. can protest  tongue in cheek to Japan about stealing American property</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/05/02/tyrants-dangerous-men-hooligans-and-philistines/#comment-15698</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 10:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shooting a nuke missile?

This is where a KA can be quite useful.  Choose a KA officer in the Navy submarine squad and elevate him to be the Captain of a nuke sub(choose the most dilapidated one).

He shoots a nuke missle to PyungYang and escapes thru a chopper.  Then, U.S. warship destroys the sub in open water so reporters can take pictures.

The Official announcement:
"Captain Kim willfully disobeyed the official orders of the U.S. and took control of nuclear missile system and for the love of his native land shot the missile to PyungYang.
This WANTON disregard for human lives and direct opposition to the Navy order is Kim's fault and his alone.

He and the ship were utterly destroyed by the U.S. warship. This shows once and for all this type of vigilantism will not be condoned in America.

As to Captain Kim and those who died, we express sincere condolences.  This will not and should not happen again.
"

Meanwhile, Captain Kim is seen in Costa Rica sunbathing.  However, you cannot be sure; all Koreans look alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shooting a nuke missile?</p>
<p>This is where a KA can be quite useful.  Choose a KA officer in the Navy submarine squad and elevate him to be the Captain of a nuke sub(choose the most dilapidated one).</p>
<p>He shoots a nuke missle to PyungYang and escapes thru a chopper.  Then, U.S. warship destroys the sub in open water so reporters can take pictures.</p>
<p>The Official announcement:<br />
&#8220;Captain Kim willfully disobeyed the official orders of the U.S. and took control of nuclear missile system and for the love of his native land shot the missile to PyungYang.<br />
This WANTON disregard for human lives and direct opposition to the Navy order is Kim&#8217;s fault and his alone.</p>
<p>He and the ship were utterly destroyed by the U.S. warship. This shows once and for all this type of vigilantism will not be condoned in America.</p>
<p>As to Captain Kim and those who died, we express sincere condolences.  This will not and should not happen again.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Captain Kim is seen in Costa Rica sunbathing.  However, you cannot be sure; all Koreans look alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Plunge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plunge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 08:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can?€™t we just nuke the North and call it a day already? How much patience do we have to have?

There is one person at least that agrees with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can?€™t we just nuke the North and call it a day already? How much patience do we have to have?</p>
<p>There is one person at least that agrees with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 08:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can't we just nuke the North and call it a day already? How much patience do we have to have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we just nuke the North and call it a day already? How much patience do we have to have?</p>
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		<title>By: R. Gomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Gomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 07:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people say it's good to positively engage the North's dictatorship so people can see just how ridiculous it is.

Like the Asian Games in 2002 when the Nork cheerbots, wailing and crying, rushed out of their buses to rescue the banner with Kim Jong-il's face on it, cuz it had gotten soggy. 

So here we have Bush engaging them, but in a negative manner.  And the dictatorship responds like the ridiculous and obsolete government it is.

Maybe verbal abuse is beneficial in this regard, too.  Maybe it will agitate the dictatorship and accelerate its demise.

Of course, maybe it will have no effect - but kissing up doesn't seem to do much either.  

I'd say do both - engage and agitate the North at every opportunity.  Keep it in the spotlight, and behind and not in control of developments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people say it&#8217;s good to positively engage the North&#8217;s dictatorship so people can see just how ridiculous it is.</p>
<p>Like the Asian Games in 2002 when the Nork cheerbots, wailing and crying, rushed out of their buses to rescue the banner with Kim Jong-il&#8217;s face on it, cuz it had gotten soggy. </p>
<p>So here we have Bush engaging them, but in a negative manner.  And the dictatorship responds like the ridiculous and obsolete government it is.</p>
<p>Maybe verbal abuse is beneficial in this regard, too.  Maybe it will agitate the dictatorship and accelerate its demise.</p>
<p>Of course, maybe it will have no effect - but kissing up doesn&#8217;t seem to do much either.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say do both - engage and agitate the North at every opportunity.  Keep it in the spotlight, and behind and not in control of developments.</p>
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