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?橫By 1966, all camps of the infantry division (3rd Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division) had set up Official Military Brothels around their camps. At Raike [I maybe spelling this wrong], there were two recreation centers, each with a bar, a stage for band music, and 60 rooms where 60 Vietnamese women lived and worked, within the wired-in premises of the camp. The women would put up nude posters of Playboy models preferred by the GIs and had silicone breast implants. The sexual service was provided with the motto, ?橫quick, straight, and routine,?? and they usually served 8-10 men a day. The fee was 500 piastres (which was worth around 2 dollars at the time), of which the girls received 200, and the owner kept the rest. It was the local bosses that recruited these women, and a part of the money went right up to the mayor. With this method, the US Forces were able to operate ??Disneyland,?? as the comfort houses were called, without dirtying their own hands. However, the RCs were, in actuality, supervised by the brigadier generals and both Commander Westmoreland and the Pentagon were fully aware of its existence. The women received weekly medical checkups from the army doctors to obtain a safety card to hang on their necks. However, even with the adoption of this method, VD infection among GIs remained high at 200 out of 1,000.???

Is the facility being inside the camp an exception? I don’t know about the Japanese comfort houses. But I suppose, for safety’s sake, they may have been located in the close vicinity or inside the camps near front lines.

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