Quick point on the Turtleship. Admiral Yi’s victories against the Japanese were not due to the turtleships per se, which were not true “ironsides” and of which he only had a few. If the only source I’ve ever read on the Imjin war is correct (Stephen Turnbull’s “Samurai Invasion”), Admiral Yi’s victories were a combination of superior strategy, superior seamanship, and Korean naval cannon which outranged the Japanese guns. Yi realized that the Japanese excelled in close-in fighting, i.e., boarding operations, so he modified his tactics to deliver superior fires from a distance. And, when he could, he preferred to catch the Japanese where they least expected him, thereby proving himself a master of surprise. When his strategy required, he used the turtleships to get in close to disable or destroy the command (i.e., flag) ships.

Moreover, Admiral Yi proved his integrity,loyalty, and patriotism when he took an undeserved demotion in rank, staying in to serve his country. I can think of a few Soviet generals who did likewise in WWII, but to find a similar example in western military history you’d have to go back to Rodrigo de Bivar, el Cid Campedor, in medieval Spain.

Is that a message to Koreans? Or are you saying that one must be strong to survive the effects of Korea? Anyway…

dda pointed out that Hanguel is not the best writing system in the world which was my contention. Since he is the expert in this area, I cannot add much. Even though like any other arguments, if I had big guns in the form of scholars I could have countered his every arguments. In liberal art subject, there is no absolute. If you have enough money and manpower, you can justify anything. Just imagine what we will be learning now if Hitler had won the WWII.

I do not think highly of Tuttleship, either. So, no Korean achievements to show to the world, I guess we Koreans and KAs have to make a brand new achievements from now on.

How about being the number one in shipbuilding? How about the best manufacturer of flat panel TV? How about making the best cellular phones?

Come to think of it, now is more important than then. Koreans, let us realize our best time is yet to come.

why do you care whether koreans think highly of their writing? what’s it to you? you say that nobody gives a shit about korea, so what the hell does it matter if koreans praise yi’s script? this thread very enilightening on your need to get back at the yemaek.

only the strong survive korea.

not my fault dda a weakling.

yo hae

I have been taking classes in computer sci for couple of years. I have come to conclusion that AI is the future of computer science.

Hardware belongs to Electrical Engineering. Algorithm and complexity belong to mathmatics department.

Computer sci is left with operating system and software coding. Software coding is a technician’s job. The compiler design and operating system was hot in the 1950’s but not so any more.

The only area comp sci can significantly contribute in the future is to use computer in a new way. Solve problems that humans cannot solve. Go beyond us.

That is AI. I think a breakthrough in this area is very likely in near future due to advances in hardware and affordability of multimicroprocessor architecture.

Machines will evolve. The movie, “Terminator; Rise of Machines” are happening. BTW, they call Mr. Schwarznegger the Governator.

My point is that YoMo seems to idealise real science and use this against pseudo-sciences. But YoMo put in the same bag political science, psychology and linguistics, where “there are no truth”, and claim that in mathematics, physics and computer science, there is truth beyond any doubt.

First, I don’t think linguistics is a pseudo-science, or a social science. Second, what is truth in mathematics and computer science. As far as we can agree in formal logics, the truth is the proof. But what about the axioms? Ok, you can give models to axioms, as did Hilbert for the geometry, but then your truth is still relative. The incompleteness theorems of Godel (despite Godel did believe in a transcendental truth) teach us the limits of we can prove, by showing that the limits are inherent to the formalism itself.

Mentioning extremely simple problems which are not solved yet, which may not be solvable, was to suggest the necessary humility we should have in computer science. What is the minimum number of comparisons needed to sort n items? We don’t know in general.

Probably the most famous living computer scientist is Donald Knuth. It is not by mistake he called his famous series of books: “The Art of Computer Programming”. Not science, ART.

And this brings me to the practical side of computer science. What can we prove about real, industrial, software? Very little. For theoretical reasons. Where is the “beyond any doubts” of YoMo? I only read despise for other fields, and personal attacks agains dda (about bad experiences in Korea etc.) This is trolling.

Computer science is not only theoretical computer science, it is also engineering, art. And even theory shows us humility, something YoMo really lacks, beyond any doubts.

PS `Further, what does, ?橫Maybe I will offer you to me a PhD candidate of mine?? mean?’

It means that the key “b” is close to the key “m”:) Also, now I know that YoMo has little understanding of theoretical computer science, as well as practical computer science (being an engineer).

YoMo is a supporter of AI, that makes sense. I personally don’t think AI is a field in itself, precisely because it is very hard to understand what is not AI. Too many experts in AI claim for instance that formal logics is part of AI. I don’t think so, because there is a project behind AI which is not the project of logicians. Also AI seems to support a materialistic philosophy in which I don’t believe, and this makes be uncomfortable when I read the papers and books of AI.

Anyway, I am afraid teach AI in a rock’n'roll fashion:)