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		<title>By: MigukNamja</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-171509</link>
		<dc:creator>MigukNamja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: "He also pushed the Mountie and took a swing at him"

Wow. Is this a result of the last 20 years of Koreans being able to do pretty much whatever they want to the police ?

Re: "During his first interview with is lawyer and Crown Counsel he laughed at the Crown’s representative because she is a woman."

Damn. This guy sounds like an overall class-A asshole.

News flash to Korean father : you aren't in Korea anymore, buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;He also pushed the Mountie and took a swing at him&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Is this a result of the last 20 years of Koreans being able to do pretty much whatever they want to the police ?</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;During his first interview with is lawyer and Crown Counsel he laughed at the Crown’s representative because she is a woman.&#8221;</p>
<p>Damn. This guy sounds like an overall class-A asshole.</p>
<p>News flash to Korean father : you aren&#8217;t in Korea anymore, buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: wnnrs nln csn</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11311</link>
		<dc:creator>wnnrs nln csn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gordsellar</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11310</link>
		<dc:creator>gordsellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hardyandtiny, 

What if the bear was about to be turned into a woman and married to a King to start a royal line? Huh? What then?

That's why guns are bad. You see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardyandtiny, </p>
<p>What if the bear was about to be turned into a woman and married to a King to start a royal line? Huh? What then?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why guns are bad. You see?</p>
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		<title>By: hardyandtiny</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11309</link>
		<dc:creator>hardyandtiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Yes you??re right. Americans defend it on the basis of tradition, only rights to carry guns and self defense. "

Not ?橫tradition??.  It??s instinct.

Not ??carry guns??. Possess weapons

If a bear in Korea kills a person because the person approached its young is the bear wrong? Doesn't the bear have that right?
If I'm home an intruder attacks my family, don't I have the same right?

I do not have the privilege of constant protection by the law and at the same time I do not exist for a history of "hand-to-hand" combat.  I need a weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes you??re right. Americans defend it on the basis of tradition, only rights to carry guns and self defense. &#8221;</p>
<p>Not ?橫tradition??.  It??s instinct.</p>
<p>Not ??carry guns??. Possess weapons</p>
<p>If a bear in Korea kills a person because the person approached its young is the bear wrong? Doesn&#8217;t the bear have that right?<br />
If I&#8217;m home an intruder attacks my family, don&#8217;t I have the same right?</p>
<p>I do not have the privilege of constant protection by the law and at the same time I do not exist for a history of &#8220;hand-to-hand&#8221; combat.  I need a weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: square-one-chill</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11308</link>
		<dc:creator>square-one-chill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Litle,

You're absolutely right. In fact, perhaps Korea should amend its constitution to fall in line with your little thesis.

American "gun lunatics" are protected by the Second Amendment of the Constitution. Korea needs this for kid-beating....

"The government shall make no law abridging the right of the ajoshi to bust down sweet justice, Confucius-style, on the wife and kids...."

But, seriously....you're not even close to arguing the point anymore. You've misdirected yourself. America didn't have anything more to do with this than did Morocco. Why do you feel that bringing up American gun-related incidents has anything to do with anything being discussed here?

"All I??m saying is that it goes both ways". I'm calling shenanigans on your ass, dude. That's not what you're saying at all. You're attempting to equate two completely unrelated issues in order to deflect criticism from a phenomenon you can't (and shouldn't) rationally excuse.

You also pretend that "sweeping generalizations about Korean men beating up women and children" are somehow at issue here. They aren't.

The only instance of that particular generalization I can find is the previous: "It??s well known and established Korean men beat their wives and children". You wrote that, ostensibly so that you could rail against the promulgation of such unfair stereotyping. Interesting technique. 

Anyway, have fun in Canada. Study hard (or else!!!!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Litle,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right. In fact, perhaps Korea should amend its constitution to fall in line with your little thesis.</p>
<p>American &#8220;gun lunatics&#8221; are protected by the Second Amendment of the Constitution. Korea needs this for kid-beating&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;The government shall make no law abridging the right of the ajoshi to bust down sweet justice, Confucius-style, on the wife and kids&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, seriously&#8230;.you&#8217;re not even close to arguing the point anymore. You&#8217;ve misdirected yourself. America didn&#8217;t have anything more to do with this than did Morocco. Why do you feel that bringing up American gun-related incidents has anything to do with anything being discussed here?</p>
<p>&#8220;All I??m saying is that it goes both ways&#8221;. I&#8217;m calling shenanigans on your ass, dude. That&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re saying at all. You&#8217;re attempting to equate two completely unrelated issues in order to deflect criticism from a phenomenon you can&#8217;t (and shouldn&#8217;t) rationally excuse.</p>
<p>You also pretend that &#8220;sweeping generalizations about Korean men beating up women and children&#8221; are somehow at issue here. They aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The only instance of that particular generalization I can find is the previous: &#8220;It??s well known and established Korean men beat their wives and children&#8221;. You wrote that, ostensibly so that you could rail against the promulgation of such unfair stereotyping. Interesting technique. </p>
<p>Anyway, have fun in Canada. Study hard (or else!!!!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Litle</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11307</link>
		<dc:creator>Litle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all,  square-one-chill from.  I am not defending whatever the father did. 
Not many people care if they throw the book at him.

And you missed my point.  If sweeping generalizations about  Korean men beating up women and children are accepted, then it should be also true that Americans are gun lunatics (how many Americans have guns - 50 to 60%?).  All I'm saying is that if you believe in the ends justify the mean, it's satistically speaking, safer to be a wife/children beater than to be gun lunatics who let children play with guns, resulting in killings/maimings, as in the latest case of a 4 yr old child shooting dead his 2 yr old brother. All I'm saying is that it goes both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all,  square-one-chill from.  I am not defending whatever the father did.<br />
Not many people care if they throw the book at him.</p>
<p>And you missed my point.  If sweeping generalizations about  Korean men beating up women and children are accepted, then it should be also true that Americans are gun lunatics (how many Americans have guns - 50 to 60%?).  All I&#8217;m saying is that if you believe in the ends justify the mean, it&#8217;s satistically speaking, safer to be a wife/children beater than to be gun lunatics who let children play with guns, resulting in killings/maimings, as in the latest case of a 4 yr old child shooting dead his 2 yr old brother. All I&#8217;m saying is that it goes both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11306</link>
		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendon, 
Good point. Of course, unintentional homicide often gets reported as suicide (both inside the military and in the wider community) in Korea so the numbers are bound to be a bit skewed. I also wonder if industrial accidents causing death are being included and thus pushing the numbers up? It is strange though that the Korean authorities producing the numbers are over reporting in this category (homicide) considering the general policy within gov't departments to portray Korea in the most positive way possible when compiling statistics for an international audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendon,<br />
Good point. Of course, unintentional homicide often gets reported as suicide (both inside the military and in the wider community) in Korea so the numbers are bound to be a bit skewed. I also wonder if industrial accidents causing death are being included and thus pushing the numbers up? It is strange though that the Korean authorities producing the numbers are over reporting in this category (homicide) considering the general policy within gov&#8217;t departments to portray Korea in the most positive way possible when compiling statistics for an international audience.</p>
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		<title>By: square-one-chill</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11305</link>
		<dc:creator>square-one-chill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Litle,

You missed the point (I think--hard to tell what you meant there). Americans don't, in general, defend (or excuse) egregious acts of violence. 

Do you feel the need to defend this, just because Koreans are involved?

Are you coming down on the side of people who beat the crap out of their children, simply because they're Koreans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Litle,</p>
<p>You missed the point (I think&#8211;hard to tell what you meant there). Americans don&#8217;t, in general, defend (or excuse) egregious acts of violence. </p>
<p>Do you feel the need to defend this, just because Koreans are involved?</p>
<p>Are you coming down on the side of people who beat the crap out of their children, simply because they&#8217;re Koreans?</p>
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		<title>By: Litle</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11304</link>
		<dc:creator>Litle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Um, when American men shoot people dead, Americans don??t defend it on the basis of our tradition, history, or culture. "

Yes you're right.  Americans defend it on the basis of tradition, only rights to carry guns and self defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Um, when American men shoot people dead, Americans don??t defend it on the basis of our tradition, history, or culture. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes you&#8217;re right.  Americans defend it on the basis of tradition, only rights to carry guns and self defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/03/14/spare-the-rod/#comment-11303</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the ??love stick?? is behind these interesting statistics. Korea ranks 15th for murders committed per capita and 4th for ??unintentional homicide?? or manslaughter per capita - tied with Zimbabwe: "&#62;&lt;a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_man_cap" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_man_cap&lt;/a&gt;

I've been to Southern Africa and Korea is definitely much safer than Zimbabwe or South Africa. There is no way that Korea is on the same level of "criminality" in respect of homicides as Zimbabwe. But, perhaps the problem is definitional: As we learned in 2002, there is no such thing in Korea as accidental killing. If a person is killed -- say, in a traffic accident -- then criminal charges almost always attach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the ??love stick?? is behind these interesting statistics. Korea ranks 15th for murders committed per capita and 4th for ??unintentional homicide?? or manslaughter per capita - tied with Zimbabwe: &#8220;&gt;<a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_man_cap" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_man_cap</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to Southern Africa and Korea is definitely much safer than Zimbabwe or South Africa. There is no way that Korea is on the same level of &#8220;criminality&#8221; in respect of homicides as Zimbabwe. But, perhaps the problem is definitional: As we learned in 2002, there is no such thing in Korea as accidental killing. If a person is killed &#8212; say, in a traffic accident &#8212; then criminal charges almost always attach.</p>
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