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		<title>By: gmblng</title>
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		<dc:creator>gmblng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: norapark</title>
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		<dc:creator>norapark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some things have changed, that's for sure. but the more relevant fact is that you probably didn't know a whole lot about the other side of korea at the age of 14 other than what the adults wanted you to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some things have changed, that&#8217;s for sure. but the more relevant fact is that you probably didn&#8217;t know a whole lot about the other side of korea at the age of 14 other than what the adults wanted you to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Koreangirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koreangirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 18:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To previous commenters - To generalize and say that all korean women are easy is obviously ridiculus. Especially considering these supposed women were encountered in clubs/bars.  People in clubs/bars aren't exactly there to recite scriptures from the bible. It has nothing to do with race because in any country, clubs/bars are filled with easy women. Such generalizations are a detriment to humanity as a whole. 

I left S. Korea at the age of 14 b/c my father was invited to the states by his professor - so I don't exactly know how it is in korea but I don't imagine that it has changed that drastically in 6 years that would justify such generalizations as "all korean women are easy" especially when these women were met in bars/clubs. Such statments only reveal the extreme baseness of one's character. In short perhaps it is wise to research before committing a fallacy of logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To previous commenters - To generalize and say that all korean women are easy is obviously ridiculus. Especially considering these supposed women were encountered in clubs/bars.  People in clubs/bars aren&#8217;t exactly there to recite scriptures from the bible. It has nothing to do with race because in any country, clubs/bars are filled with easy women. Such generalizations are a detriment to humanity as a whole. </p>
<p>I left S. Korea at the age of 14 b/c my father was invited to the states by his professor - so I don&#8217;t exactly know how it is in korea but I don&#8217;t imagine that it has changed that drastically in 6 years that would justify such generalizations as &#8220;all korean women are easy&#8221; especially when these women were met in bars/clubs. Such statments only reveal the extreme baseness of one&#8217;s character. In short perhaps it is wise to research before committing a fallacy of logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitesands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitesands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Canadian, been teaching for 3 years in Korea came with and will be marrying my canadian gf.  People love to generalize, complain and defer blame everywhere.

Bottom line......who cares!  It will pass, there are losers everywhere and its easy for people to focus on them to define larger groups.

The media has ruined the bar where the "infractions" happened and seriously damaged some of the girls lives.  They were minding their own business and having fun.  Comments made about korean women in articles related to this were very degrading to women in general as well.  

Random idiots posting on a website....um, if people are going to pay any attention to that and make it newsworthy then there is a real problem.  Personally I think the reporters who focussed on the issue are pathetic.  

Koreans get angry about a western man dating a Korean girl.  Ask a Korean man what he thinks about a Korean man dating a western girl.

This is all sensationalizm that was allowed to live mostly due to naivity, sensitivity and pride (not to mention confucianist roots).  See James Bond movie.

I love Korea, so does my fiance.  You have to accept some things to feel that way though.  The main thing is not everything will follow logic or reason.  Also, it is a land of trends, an issue is only important as long as it is fashionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Canadian, been teaching for 3 years in Korea came with and will be marrying my canadian gf.  People love to generalize, complain and defer blame everywhere.</p>
<p>Bottom line&#8230;&#8230;who cares!  It will pass, there are losers everywhere and its easy for people to focus on them to define larger groups.</p>
<p>The media has ruined the bar where the &#8220;infractions&#8221; happened and seriously damaged some of the girls lives.  They were minding their own business and having fun.  Comments made about korean women in articles related to this were very degrading to women in general as well.  </p>
<p>Random idiots posting on a website&#8230;.um, if people are going to pay any attention to that and make it newsworthy then there is a real problem.  Personally I think the reporters who focussed on the issue are pathetic.  </p>
<p>Koreans get angry about a western man dating a Korean girl.  Ask a Korean man what he thinks about a Korean man dating a western girl.</p>
<p>This is all sensationalizm that was allowed to live mostly due to naivity, sensitivity and pride (not to mention confucianist roots).  See James Bond movie.</p>
<p>I love Korea, so does my fiance.  You have to accept some things to feel that way though.  The main thing is not everything will follow logic or reason.  Also, it is a land of trends, an issue is only important as long as it is fashionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoted: "Speaking of which, can anyone give me a few tips on how to score with American white chicks? I once responded to this white chick?€™s ad on BangMatch.com with my photo and got back a one-liner saying that she?€™s actually looking for ?€œsomeone who can last at least ten minutes.?€? Geeeeeeeeeeez?€?"


Tip One:  Never, ever again try to pick up a white chick using a website, much less one that is named bangmatch.com.  You'll probably get a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted: &#8220;Speaking of which, can anyone give me a few tips on how to score with American white chicks? I once responded to this white chick?€™s ad on BangMatch.com with my photo and got back a one-liner saying that she?€™s actually looking for ?€œsomeone who can last at least ten minutes.?€? Geeeeeeeeeeez?€?&#8221;</p>
<p>Tip One:  Never, ever again try to pick up a white chick using a website, much less one that is named bangmatch.com.  You&#8217;ll probably get a man.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uhhhh. its not like the english teachers are drugging the girls and having sex with them while theyre passed out. everytime a korean girl has gone home with me, shes not kicking and screaming. they go to places like hongdae and itaewon to go home with a foreigner. its not like all korean girls are angels. i met a korean girl once in hongdae and after 20 minutes of talking she asked me to take her home, tie her up and slap her around. i didnt take advantage of her at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhhhh. its not like the english teachers are drugging the girls and having sex with them while theyre passed out. everytime a korean girl has gone home with me, shes not kicking and screaming. they go to places like hongdae and itaewon to go home with a foreigner. its not like all korean girls are angels. i met a korean girl once in hongdae and after 20 minutes of talking she asked me to take her home, tie her up and slap her around. i didnt take advantage of her at all.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nulji - you need to chil out and also learn discrimination. Not the racial kind of discrimination, which you have mastered, but discernment of nuances and subtleties in arguments. That would make your posts less prone to non sequitors and less based on attacking straw men instead of real issues. You still have a long way to go, and you are at best only a shade better than bluejives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nulji - you need to chil out and also learn discrimination. Not the racial kind of discrimination, which you have mastered, but discernment of nuances and subtleties in arguments. That would make your posts less prone to non sequitors and less based on attacking straw men instead of real issues. You still have a long way to go, and you are at best only a shade better than bluejives.</p>
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		<title>By: hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm a human being, on the planet earth.  i love women, and women love me, and sometimes i have sex with them.  ideally, i'm in love with the woman i sleep with and i'm loyal and treasure her dearly.
'guy talk' is not much worse, and usually less graphic, than 'girl talk.'  men talking about females sexually is nothing new. korean men do it to.

so what is the real issue here?  are there no places on the internet where korean men speak likewise of their own women?  or even "our" women?  the only reason it is news at all is because korean men dislike western men becuase asian women, not uncommonly, like western men.  i wish people could look at this at a macro level and not at the micro level where it is us against them.  because of a few immature people, we are all walking on glass, and koreans don't like to forgive and forget and see things objectively.  they love nothing more to pour gas on a fire, and this is a warm one.

to the marmot, or whoever you are, i think you have dug the hole deeper for us somehow, and some of the "facts" you include are likely very isolated and not commonplace.  i would like to see you, with this big fancey blog that everyone surfs to, post something entirely positive and moving and get it out into Korea's cyberworld.  korean men have to realise that men are men...some are good and some are bad...but god help us not all of us are bad...even if most of us really like korean women.  the world and the people in it are not perfect...but why do we have to latch on to a vicous cycle?  hongdae is hongdae. its a club district. party people go there to do party people things.  if a korean girl wants to go their and dance and get laid with a foreign guy, she should have that right, and vice versa.  it takes two to tango.  hongdae is hardly the epicenter of foreign culture and practice in korea.  and the playboy is hardly the average english teacher. in fact he is a student at yonsei university and an american and has nothing to do with ESL.  as for the playboy forum, there were very few active posters, and the ones that did post were living in a fantasy land. if it was true what they wrote, they wouldnt have had the time nor the need to write about it.  

i love my girlfriend deeply and now she sits not quite next to me on the subway. i'm starting to think korea is not the place to be.  let us pray! someone put out the damn fire or start it somewhere else! kim jung ill! fire a missile in the ocean or something please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a human being, on the planet earth.  i love women, and women love me, and sometimes i have sex with them.  ideally, i&#8217;m in love with the woman i sleep with and i&#8217;m loyal and treasure her dearly.<br />
&#8216;guy talk&#8217; is not much worse, and usually less graphic, than &#8216;girl talk.&#8217;  men talking about females sexually is nothing new. korean men do it to.</p>
<p>so what is the real issue here?  are there no places on the internet where korean men speak likewise of their own women?  or even &#8220;our&#8221; women?  the only reason it is news at all is because korean men dislike western men becuase asian women, not uncommonly, like western men.  i wish people could look at this at a macro level and not at the micro level where it is us against them.  because of a few immature people, we are all walking on glass, and koreans don&#8217;t like to forgive and forget and see things objectively.  they love nothing more to pour gas on a fire, and this is a warm one.</p>
<p>to the marmot, or whoever you are, i think you have dug the hole deeper for us somehow, and some of the &#8220;facts&#8221; you include are likely very isolated and not commonplace.  i would like to see you, with this big fancey blog that everyone surfs to, post something entirely positive and moving and get it out into Korea&#8217;s cyberworld.  korean men have to realise that men are men&#8230;some are good and some are bad&#8230;but god help us not all of us are bad&#8230;even if most of us really like korean women.  the world and the people in it are not perfect&#8230;but why do we have to latch on to a vicous cycle?  hongdae is hongdae. its a club district. party people go there to do party people things.  if a korean girl wants to go their and dance and get laid with a foreign guy, she should have that right, and vice versa.  it takes two to tango.  hongdae is hardly the epicenter of foreign culture and practice in korea.  and the playboy is hardly the average english teacher. in fact he is a student at yonsei university and an american and has nothing to do with ESL.  as for the playboy forum, there were very few active posters, and the ones that did post were living in a fantasy land. if it was true what they wrote, they wouldnt have had the time nor the need to write about it.  </p>
<p>i love my girlfriend deeply and now she sits not quite next to me on the subway. i&#8217;m starting to think korea is not the place to be.  let us pray! someone put out the damn fire or start it somewhere else! kim jung ill! fire a missile in the ocean or something please!</p>
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		<title>By: Juggertha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juggertha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe, wow, do I ever make a lot of spelling mistakes. Where's the edit button around here marmot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe, wow, do I ever make a lot of spelling mistakes. Where&#8217;s the edit button around here marmot?</p>
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		<title>By: Juggertha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juggertha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuji-1. to me, most of you are one in the same. so, my assumption that you?€™re married to a korean women was wrong but not germaine since i see you as the same as i see drambuie man or any other expat here excepting those i?€™ve already mentioned in other posts.

2. my frustration with expats who marry korean women is not focused on the woman, it?€™s focused on the man. do you understand there?€™s a difference? i don?€™t give one shit about korean women who marry white men or korean men who marry white women. believe me, i?€™m telling the truth, i just don?€™t give shit. good for her. but i just have to wonder how some of you can marry a korean when some of the things you say about them are just filthy. most of you look down on koreans and seem fixated on portraying the koreans in the most horrible of light. and then you marry them? man, that?€™s what i can?€™t get over. understand it like the article above about your collegues makes me understand a bit more about the expat. it?€™s too bad?€?

3. i thought i pointed out that i was changing the subject, mr orankay. i?€™ll be more clear in the future though i?€™m sure most understood what i wrote. 


Well man, I'm glad i read that post. Now i understand a little better where your coming from. I don't think your as full of hatered as some seem to think... I just think your "close" to it. Take out the words "most" from your quote and it sounds pretty damming. I really hope you don't feel that mch anger towards people you have never met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuji-1. to me, most of you are one in the same. so, my assumption that you?€™re married to a korean women was wrong but not germaine since i see you as the same as i see drambuie man or any other expat here excepting those i?€™ve already mentioned in other posts.</p>
<p>2. my frustration with expats who marry korean women is not focused on the woman, it?€™s focused on the man. do you understand there?€™s a difference? i don?€™t give one shit about korean women who marry white men or korean men who marry white women. believe me, i?€™m telling the truth, i just don?€™t give shit. good for her. but i just have to wonder how some of you can marry a korean when some of the things you say about them are just filthy. most of you look down on koreans and seem fixated on portraying the koreans in the most horrible of light. and then you marry them? man, that?€™s what i can?€™t get over. understand it like the article above about your collegues makes me understand a bit more about the expat. it?€™s too bad?€?</p>
<p>3. i thought i pointed out that i was changing the subject, mr orankay. i?€™ll be more clear in the future though i?€™m sure most understood what i wrote. </p>
<p>Well man, I&#8217;m glad i read that post. Now i understand a little better where your coming from. I don&#8217;t think your as full of hatered as some seem to think&#8230; I just think your &#8220;close&#8221; to it. Take out the words &#8220;most&#8221; from your quote and it sounds pretty damming. I really hope you don&#8217;t feel that mch anger towards people you have never met.</p>
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