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	<title>Comments on: Top Gear has some fun at Hyundai&#8217;s expense</title>
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		<title>By: willum</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/31/top-gear-has-some-fun-at-hyundais-expense/#comment-10004</link>
		<dc:creator>willum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 07:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - the Brit car industry would love to be in Hyundai's position.
Now we will have to subsidise Rover - is that the same as selling below cost?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow - the Brit car industry would love to be in Hyundai&#8217;s position.<br />
Now we will have to subsidise Rover - is that the same as selling below cost?</p>
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		<title>By: Sugar Shin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/31/top-gear-has-some-fun-at-hyundais-expense/#comment-10003</link>
		<dc:creator>Sugar Shin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what's going on in the British car industry? Is there any car comapny which isn't owned by a foreign (e.g. German company)?

The British automobile industry is as dead as the British empire. Legendary car brand names have survived, but nobody can live in the gone glory of the past forever.

Putting Korean workers into work, making some profits with modestly decent cars is better than being jobless. Ask a British ex-industry-worker. Huh. Guess, he would be lucky to assemble a Hyundai car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what&#8217;s going on in the British car industry? Is there any car comapny which isn&#8217;t owned by a foreign (e.g. German company)?</p>
<p>The British automobile industry is as dead as the British empire. Legendary car brand names have survived, but nobody can live in the gone glory of the past forever.</p>
<p>Putting Korean workers into work, making some profits with modestly decent cars is better than being jobless. Ask a British ex-industry-worker. Huh. Guess, he would be lucky to assemble a Hyundai car.</p>
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		<title>By: skip</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/31/top-gear-has-some-fun-at-hyundais-expense/#comment-10002</link>
		<dc:creator>skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 09:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thrust of Top Gear's critique of Korean (and Malaysian) cars was essentially that they lack 'soul' - that they are produced in the same way as white-goods, the focus being on the number of units out the factory door not on producing the best product possible. When was the last time you heard Hyundai or Kia winning a design award for a Korean designed car? Korean cars reflect the culture that produces them: quantity over quality. Hyundai is expanding its market share by offering cheap (comparatively) cars. In the UK a Kia can be driven of the lot for nothing...nothing down, no interest...you get the idea. Hyundai, like many of Korea's conglomerates, sells cars at or near (or below) cost, thus the reason net profits keep dropping while exports rise. As long as the government keeps the credit taps open, real profits (share holder value)are secondary considerations. Where Korean cars fail miserably (anyone who's owned one can attest to this) is in resale value; essentially the perceived value of the product 3-4 years after manufacturer. Korean cars depreciate quickly and steeply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thrust of Top Gear&#8217;s critique of Korean (and Malaysian) cars was essentially that they lack &#8217;soul&#8217; - that they are produced in the same way as white-goods, the focus being on the number of units out the factory door not on producing the best product possible. When was the last time you heard Hyundai or Kia winning a design award for a Korean designed car? Korean cars reflect the culture that produces them: quantity over quality. Hyundai is expanding its market share by offering cheap (comparatively) cars. In the UK a Kia can be driven of the lot for nothing&#8230;nothing down, no interest&#8230;you get the idea. Hyundai, like many of Korea&#8217;s conglomerates, sells cars at or near (or below) cost, thus the reason net profits keep dropping while exports rise. As long as the government keeps the credit taps open, real profits (share holder value)are secondary considerations. Where Korean cars fail miserably (anyone who&#8217;s owned one can attest to this) is in resale value; essentially the perceived value of the product 3-4 years after manufacturer. Korean cars depreciate quickly and steeply.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/31/top-gear-has-some-fun-at-hyundais-expense/#comment-10001</link>
		<dc:creator>kimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But ultimately, Hyundai gets the last laugh.

Hyundai Targets 14 Pct Rise in 2005 Sales
By REUTERS

Published: December 31, 2004</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But ultimately, Hyundai gets the last laugh.</p>
<p>Hyundai Targets 14 Pct Rise in 2005 Sales<br />
By REUTERS</p>
<p>Published: December 31, 2004</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/31/top-gear-has-some-fun-at-hyundais-expense/#comment-10000</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 02:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top Gear: Good show.
Korean Cars:...Getting better...
Jeremy Clarkson: Wanker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top Gear: Good show.<br />
Korean Cars:&#8230;Getting better&#8230;<br />
Jeremy Clarkson: Wanker.</p>
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		<title>By: wooj</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/31/top-gear-has-some-fun-at-hyundais-expense/#comment-9999</link>
		<dc:creator>wooj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason why the Marmot should work for OhmyNews instead of the Chosun ;)

&lt;a href="http://www.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?menu=c10400&#38;no=200753&#38;rel_no=3&#38;code=426440&#38;page=1&#38;sort_name=" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?menu=c10400&#38;no=200753&#38;rel_no=3&#38;code=426440&#38;page=1&#38;sort_name=&lt;/a&gt;

Also note the reader's comments on this article. Koreans aren't always so irrational as some may think they are, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason why the Marmot should work for OhmyNews instead of the Chosun <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://www.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?menu=c10400&amp;no=200753&amp;rel_no=3&amp;code=426440&amp;page=1&amp;sort_name=" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohmynews.com/articl.....sort_name=</a></p>
<p>Also note the reader&#8217;s comments on this article. Koreans aren&#8217;t always so irrational as some may think they are, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They seemed to understand the marketing concept of a 10-year, 100,000-mile powertrain car warranty that completely changed their brand name perception in the U.S. and made them contenders....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They seemed to understand the marketing concept of a 10-year, 100,000-mile powertrain car warranty that completely changed their brand name perception in the U.S. and made them contenders&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, from the Chosun article it seemed Hyundai "got it" in that the company spokesman said it "might appear odd to respond in a serious manner" to the show. All part of the growing pains of the chaebol as they take over the world ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, from the Chosun article it seemed Hyundai &#8220;got it&#8221; in that the company spokesman said it &#8220;might appear odd to respond in a serious manner&#8221; to the show. All part of the growing pains of the chaebol as they take over the world <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/31/top-gear-has-some-fun-at-hyundais-expense/#comment-9996</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like another example of the Korean news media blowing stuff out of proportion.  I saw an episode in which the Escalade was subjected to nonstop ridicule.  See  &lt;a href="http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=754&#38;p=6" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=754&#38;p=6&lt;/a&gt;

The hosts stated that the only reason anyone would buy an Escalade would be for the "bling" factor.  Later on, one of the hosts explained how he had "blinged up" a Volvo station wagon by tinting the windows and adding spinners.

I think Jeff's right in that this is just a failure of cross-cultural humor.  I shudder to think of the reaction here to Korean comedy sketches featuring performers in blackface...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like another example of the Korean news media blowing stuff out of proportion.  I saw an episode in which the Escalade was subjected to nonstop ridicule.  See  <a href="http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=754&amp;p=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.racingflix.com/getv.....54&amp;p=6</a></p>
<p>The hosts stated that the only reason anyone would buy an Escalade would be for the &#8220;bling&#8221; factor.  Later on, one of the hosts explained how he had &#8220;blinged up&#8221; a Volvo station wagon by tinting the windows and adding spinners.</p>
<p>I think Jeff&#8217;s right in that this is just a failure of cross-cultural humor.  I shudder to think of the reaction here to Korean comedy sketches featuring performers in blackface&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kimbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with uptight Korea and having too much importance on outside image of Korea.

But I also understand why Hyundai maybe overly sensitive. They've tried very hard over the years to fight the overseas image of cheap poor quality cars.  Notice also how the British show worded it - they said  "Korean cars" (Asian cars), not "Lotus", or "Hyundai", or "Toyota", or any other brand, they worded it as  "Korean cars".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with uptight Korea and having too much importance on outside image of Korea.</p>
<p>But I also understand why Hyundai maybe overly sensitive. They&#8217;ve tried very hard over the years to fight the overseas image of cheap poor quality cars.  Notice also how the British show worded it - they said  &#8220;Korean cars&#8221; (Asian cars), not &#8220;Lotus&#8221;, or &#8220;Hyundai&#8221;, or &#8220;Toyota&#8221;, or any other brand, they worded it as  &#8220;Korean cars&#8221;.</p>
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