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		<description>And by the way, I choose America 1940 or 50s as an example of a roughly modern society without a recently massively successful womens' movement and all the proceeding impact of it, as a comparison point for Korea. Not because I think Korea now is the same as America in the 1940s or 50s.</description>
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		<description>To go far back to something noted earlier, but from a different angle, it may be that real Confucianism and modernity are just not compatible? I mean, if we're saying that co-ed school is "modern" in that sense. I'm sure if school had suddenly become co-ed in America in the 1940s or 50s, we'd see a lot of rape cases. Confucianism is a blatantly sexist system, like so many other traditional systems of organizing people. It's not as if all Korean celebrate Confucianism uncritically, too. 

I understand that it's hard to change, but that's not an excuse not to change. What irks me is that stubborn refusal to change when an outsider points out a problem, even coming from people who do see the problem and speak angrily about it when an outsider is not around. Which may be a reason I feel driven to comment on both the problem and the reception of comments on it. 

Another thing: while Koreans I've spoken about say things are actually getting worse, that society is "going crazy", I remember people saying that in Canada in the 80s when I was a kid, too. The saying that the world is going to the dogs is a Latin one, from ancient Rome. In fact, things seemed to be getting worse in Canada, because things like rape and child abuse were going unreported somewhat less often than before; but the increased reportage actually reflected improvements. 

As some have noted above, while the event was horrible, the reportage of it may be a positive sign.</description>
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<p>I understand that it&#8217;s hard to change, but that&#8217;s not an excuse not to change. What irks me is that stubborn refusal to change when an outsider points out a problem, even coming from people who do see the problem and speak angrily about it when an outsider is not around. Which may be a reason I feel driven to comment on both the problem and the reception of comments on it. </p>
<p>Another thing: while Koreans I&#8217;ve spoken about say things are actually getting worse, that society is &#8220;going crazy&#8221;, I remember people saying that in Canada in the 80s when I was a kid, too. The saying that the world is going to the dogs is a Latin one, from ancient Rome. In fact, things seemed to be getting worse in Canada, because things like rape and child abuse were going unreported somewhat less often than before; but the increased reportage actually reflected improvements. </p>
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