Comments on: Roh Hoe-chan — the human leak machine http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/ Korea... in Blog Format Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:20:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Duophony http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8992 Duophony Tue, 07 Dec 2004 03:50:16 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8992 Conspiracies and Smear Tactics Obviously, American military and political officials are experts at spinning conspiracy theories after being the brunt of them for so long. High-ranking U.S. Defense Department officials have recently complained about negotiation details, such as the t... Conspiracies and Smear Tactics
Obviously, American military and political officials are experts at spinning conspiracy theories after being the brunt of them for so long. High-ranking U.S. Defense Department officials have recently complained about negotiation details, such as the t…

]]> By: usinkorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8991 usinkorea Thu, 02 Dec 2004 22:55:08 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8991 I really didn't see much in the "disclosures" that wasn't known beforehand. It was the hype of them that made the difference. I just wonder if there is not some broader coordination between Pres. Roh and these other people who seem to be trying a preemptive strike on any bolder moves by Bush after his election? It is hard to tell, because this kind of scare talk comes out fairly regularly in the Korean press. And, I would guess there is little "coordination" but simply a result of the Bush victory touching buttons in different people who hoped Kerry would win and do much more of what SK wants on NK ---- which is to buy them off and shut up about them.... I really didn’t see much in the “disclosures” that wasn’t known beforehand. It was the hype of them that made the difference.

I just wonder if there is not some broader coordination between Pres. Roh and these other people who seem to be trying a preemptive strike on any bolder moves by Bush after his election?

It is hard to tell, because this kind of scare talk comes out fairly regularly in the Korean press.

And, I would guess there is little “coordination” but simply a result of the Bush victory touching buttons in different people who hoped Kerry would win and do much more of what SK wants on NK —- which is to buy them off and shut up about them….

]]> By: Captain Scarlet http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8990 Captain Scarlet Thu, 02 Dec 2004 11:18:33 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8990 i wonder what the US's reaction to this was. i wonder what the US’s reaction to this was.

]]> By: oranckay http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8989 oranckay Thu, 02 Dec 2004 09:41:12 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8989 I agree with "non korean" entirely about planning. There's also the issue of "not ruling things out." Kerry wouldn't rule out military action against NK, but that's just normal and there's no way he ever would've. But the Korean papers declared "Possible NK Strike by Kerry." About the leaks.... Any fool, China and NK included, knows why US troops are here and why the US wants to keep 'em here. What Park Jin revealed was probably not known to NK before he went public with it, and as such presented the more immediate security problemm. I agree with “non korean” entirely about planning. There’s also the issue of “not ruling things out.” Kerry wouldn’t rule out military action against NK, but that’s just normal and there’s no way he ever would’ve. But the Korean papers declared “Possible NK Strike by Kerry.”

About the leaks…. Any fool, China and NK included, knows why US troops are here and why the US wants to keep ‘em here. What Park Jin revealed was probably not known to NK before he went public with it, and as such presented the more immediate security problemm.

]]> By: non korean http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8988 non korean Thu, 02 Dec 2004 07:39:39 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8988 oranckay. The GNP member did let out "classified material" but this material was solely Korean material. The material was not directly from the US government. The material Roh let out is from the US government. I think most readers would be more interested in this case since it involves not Korean classified info but US classified Info leaked by a foreign country. I find the West generally appreciates contingency plans much more than Korea. I'm not saying Koreans don't have contingency plans just that the West plans out things more and has more contingency plans than Korea. This is a difference between cultures. I think many Koreans ( with a nice spin from Left media and NGOs would look at this very suspiciously. Many would think the US wouldn't make a plan unless it was going to happen. Many Koreans just don't have such contingency plans and would think that way. Korans have a good laugh at me because I tell them I have a very basic survival kit and some money (in US dollars) just in case the brothers to the North attack. Most think why plan for something that probably won't happen. Cultural difference!!!! oranckay. The GNP member did let out “classified material” but this material was solely Korean material. The material was not directly from the US government. The material Roh let out is from the US government. I think most readers would be more interested in this case since it involves not Korean classified info but US classified Info leaked by a foreign country.

I find the West generally appreciates contingency plans much more than Korea. I’m not saying Koreans don’t have contingency plans just that the West plans out things more and has more contingency plans than Korea. This is a difference between cultures. I think many Koreans ( with a nice spin from Left media and NGOs would look at this very suspiciously. Many would think the US wouldn’t make a plan unless it was going to happen. Many Koreans just don’t have such contingency plans and would think that way.

Korans have a good laugh at me because I tell them I have a very basic survival kit and some money (in US dollars) just in case the brothers to the North attack. Most think why plan for something that probably won’t happen. Cultural difference!!!!

]]> By: oranckay http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8987 oranckay Wed, 01 Dec 2004 22:46:04 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8987 Maybe he just thinks US forces are here because they enjoy running over middle school girls and getting yelled at, just out of the goodness of their hearts? However, it does seem there's something of a double standard in play. GNP big boy Park Jin disclosed classified material in the National Assembly and did so with political motive, but no one here seemed to notice. :-) Maybe he just thinks US forces are here because they enjoy running over middle school girls and getting yelled at, just out of the goodness of their hearts?

However, it does seem there’s something of a double standard in play. GNP big boy Park Jin disclosed classified material in the National Assembly and did so with political motive, but no one here seemed to notice. :-)

]]> By: aa http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8986 aa Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:06:43 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8986 "This guy is a security nightmare. " No kidding. I wonder what his true motivations are. “This guy is a security nightmare. ”
No kidding. I wonder what his true motivations are.

]]> By: Dave http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8985 Dave Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:17:49 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8985 This guy is a security nightmare. Regardless of the content of any "second degree" (US classification = SECRET) document, he wrecking a lot of goodwill within the alliance. US members of congress, State Dept, Defense Dept (military/civilian/contractor) and others sign NONDISCLOSURE STATEMENTS as a step when receiving their clearances. I don't know how the ROK government does it; sounds like there's no fear of reprisal. Dr Hodges, I too have wondered how I would react if I met Big Ho! This guy is a security nightmare. Regardless of the content of any “second degree” (US classification = SECRET) document, he wrecking a lot of goodwill within the alliance. US members of congress, State Dept, Defense Dept (military/civilian/contractor) and others sign NONDISCLOSURE STATEMENTS as a step when receiving their clearances. I don’t know how the ROK government does it; sounds like there’s no fear of reprisal.

Dr Hodges, I too have wondered how I would react if I met Big Ho!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8984 Anonymous Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:23:56 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8984 Any military worth its salt has contingency plans for all sorts of unpleasant scenarios. For that matter, most individuals have contingency plans (or should have!) for any number of emergencies. For instance, I have plans about how to handle being caught in a subway fire, what to do during an earthquake, where to go if a tornado strikes, and even how to react if I ever happen to meet the Big Ho. Boy Scout Motto: "Be Prepared!" Jeffery Hodges Any military worth its salt has contingency plans for all sorts of unpleasant scenarios.

For that matter, most individuals have contingency plans (or should have!) for any number of emergencies. For instance, I have plans about how to handle being caught in a subway fire, what to do during an earthquake, where to go if a tornado strikes, and even how to react if I ever happen to meet the Big Ho.

Boy Scout Motto: “Be Prepared!”

Jeffery Hodges

]]> By: BigFire http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/12/01/roh-hoe-chan-the-human-leak-machine/#comment-8983 BigFire Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:01:17 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1297#comment-8983 US Military have contingency plan for everything up to and including alien invasion and divine intervation. US Military have contingency plan for everything up to and including alien invasion and divine intervation.

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