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	<title>Comments on: NYT on fissures in North Korea &#8212; reader beware</title>
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		<title>By: The Marmot's Hole  Psych-ops against North Korea?</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/23/nyt-on-fissures-in-north-korea-reader-beware/#comment-8592</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot's Hole  Psych-ops against North Korea?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 03:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Big Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/23/nyt-on-fissures-in-north-korea-reader-beware/#comment-8591</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Adamu's comment on the post-NK future. It seemed very cogent, the speaker had some excellent insights. However, I think that the most likely reason for NK to cease to exist would be by "merging" with China, either voluntarily or otherwise. Why would China like to see Korean reunification, except to impoverish the south?

 "When North Korea inevitably collapses and is reunited with the South, it is a foregone conclusion that the newly unified Korean state will form a military alliance with the United States. China is likely to tolerate this alliance provided that no American troops are actually stationed on the Korean Peninsula. Why would China put up with this? Because without a U.S.-Korea alliance, there would be nothing to stop Japan from becoming a major military power, which China fears even more. Also, China needs Japanese and American investments to develop the northeast part of the country, so it has to play along to some extent." 

One persuasive argument is China's latest "redefinition" of parts of North Korea as belonging to China, not Korea. Sounds like justification for another Manchurian Incident to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Adamu&#8217;s comment on the post-NK future. It seemed very cogent, the speaker had some excellent insights. However, I think that the most likely reason for NK to cease to exist would be by &#8220;merging&#8221; with China, either voluntarily or otherwise. Why would China like to see Korean reunification, except to impoverish the south?</p>
<p> &#8220;When North Korea inevitably collapses and is reunited with the South, it is a foregone conclusion that the newly unified Korean state will form a military alliance with the United States. China is likely to tolerate this alliance provided that no American troops are actually stationed on the Korean Peninsula. Why would China put up with this? Because without a U.S.-Korea alliance, there would be nothing to stop Japan from becoming a major military power, which China fears even more. Also, China needs Japanese and American investments to develop the northeast part of the country, so it has to play along to some extent.&#8221; </p>
<p>One persuasive argument is China&#8217;s latest &#8220;redefinition&#8221; of parts of North Korea as belonging to China, not Korea. Sounds like justification for another Manchurian Incident to me.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/23/nyt-on-fissures-in-north-korea-reader-beware/#comment-8590</link>
		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimbob, don't you think you are being a bit of a elitist when you claim that you believe that the Korean hoi polloi aren't mature enough to live their lives without the NSL?  I wonder if you feel the same way about the USA Patriots Act.  Let me tell you, I DESPISE those Hanchongryun Hongdae f&#38;8kfaces, but I can't really blame their existence since it was really the Korean conservatives who gave birth to them. 

It seems to me all about guilt by association in Korea.  Oh so-and-so's grandfather was a Japanese lackey so he must be a right wing freak.  So-and-so is from Jeollado, she must be a bbal-chi-san.  So-and-so said that he hates Kim Jong Il, he must be an American puppet. and so on and so forth.

What we need now is some cold dash of truth not coddling the masses into their wishful dreamlike trance they are all in.  NSL is part of that problem.  Because of the NSL, all the communists in Korea who would be ignored without the NSL gains credibility as victimized.  Because of the NSL, South Korean politics is corrupted, and the young automatically dismisses the old, and the young associates guilt to the old generation.  If there is one thing No Moo Hyun regime will be credited for doing any sort of good deed, it would be repealing the NSL.  There is a real reason why people in Kwangju and Jejudo can't stand Hannara motherf&#38;8kfaces.  The real shame is that they have turned anti-americans, but the blame belongs just as much on the Korean conservatives as Korean liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimbob, don&#8217;t you think you are being a bit of a elitist when you claim that you believe that the Korean hoi polloi aren&#8217;t mature enough to live their lives without the NSL?  I wonder if you feel the same way about the USA Patriots Act.  Let me tell you, I DESPISE those Hanchongryun Hongdae f&amp;8kfaces, but I can&#8217;t really blame their existence since it was really the Korean conservatives who gave birth to them. </p>
<p>It seems to me all about guilt by association in Korea.  Oh so-and-so&#8217;s grandfather was a Japanese lackey so he must be a right wing freak.  So-and-so is from Jeollado, she must be a bbal-chi-san.  So-and-so said that he hates Kim Jong Il, he must be an American puppet. and so on and so forth.</p>
<p>What we need now is some cold dash of truth not coddling the masses into their wishful dreamlike trance they are all in.  NSL is part of that problem.  Because of the NSL, all the communists in Korea who would be ignored without the NSL gains credibility as victimized.  Because of the NSL, South Korean politics is corrupted, and the young automatically dismisses the old, and the young associates guilt to the old generation.  If there is one thing No Moo Hyun regime will be credited for doing any sort of good deed, it would be repealing the NSL.  There is a real reason why people in Kwangju and Jejudo can&#8217;t stand Hannara motherf&amp;8kfaces.  The real shame is that they have turned anti-americans, but the blame belongs just as much on the Korean conservatives as Korean liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: higgsboson</title>
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		<dc:creator>higgsboson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kimbob, even if North Korea's economy has collapsed, it is still a threat.  It spends almost as much per capita on the military as South Korea.  It is far from harmless.

Not to mention the North Korean export of missiles also makes the world as less safe place.  And if the North started selling nuclear bombs, then North Korea would probably bear responsibility if a nuclear war broke out.  The international reputation of Korea would be blackened for generations as the people who sold nuclear bombs that senselessly killed millions.  So North Korea is still a threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kimbob, even if North Korea&#8217;s economy has collapsed, it is still a threat.  It spends almost as much per capita on the military as South Korea.  It is far from harmless.</p>
<p>Not to mention the North Korean export of missiles also makes the world as less safe place.  And if the North started selling nuclear bombs, then North Korea would probably bear responsibility if a nuclear war broke out.  The international reputation of Korea would be blackened for generations as the people who sold nuclear bombs that senselessly killed millions.  So North Korea is still a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Budaechigae ?¶€?Œ€?°Œ?°œ</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/23/nyt-on-fissures-in-north-korea-reader-beware/#comment-8588</link>
		<dc:creator>Budaechigae ?¶€?Œ€?°Œ?°œ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Say Hello to My Little Friend...'
Somehow I don't think the nork military top dog would vacation in the Carribean Worker's Paradise if something strange was brewing at home (Photo courtesy ChosunJournal's Deck of Cards) North Korea's top military officer visits Cuba HAVANA (AFP) No...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Say Hello to My Little Friend&#8230;&#8217;<br />
Somehow I don&#8217;t think the nork military top dog would vacation in the Carribean Worker&#8217;s Paradise if something strange was brewing at home (Photo courtesy ChosunJournal&#8217;s Deck of Cards) North Korea&#8217;s top military officer visits Cuba HAVANA (AFP) No&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/23/nyt-on-fissures-in-north-korea-reader-beware/#comment-8587</link>
		<dc:creator>kimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the second thought, I just read this article: there's no excuse for this. Truely disgusting.

&lt;a href="http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200411/kt2004112317341510230.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200411/kt2004112317341510230.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the second thought, I just read this article: there&#8217;s no excuse for this. Truely disgusting.</p>
<p><a href="http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200411/kt2004112317341510230.htm" rel="nofollow">http://times.hankooki.com/lpag.....510230.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: kimbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NK collapse soon? Wishful thinking.  If that is true, wouldn't that make SK's sunshine policy of appeasment to ease the cost of reunification, right thing to do (in light of the fact that NK is so weak right now that they are not a threat)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NK collapse soon? Wishful thinking.  If that is true, wouldn&#8217;t that make SK&#8217;s sunshine policy of appeasment to ease the cost of reunification, right thing to do (in light of the fact that NK is so weak right now that they are not a threat)?</p>
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		<title>By: Ant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 02:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If the Sankei ran a piece tomorrow that said the Earth revolved around the sun, I?€™d start questioning Copernicus."

The earth does orbit the sun.  You mean the other way round</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the Sankei ran a piece tomorrow that said the Earth revolved around the sun, I?€™d start questioning Copernicus.&#8221;</p>
<p>The earth does orbit the sun.  You mean the other way round</p>
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		<title>By: Adamu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for linking to my NK article. I had 140 individual hits today, my best day yet by far! I'm sure it's small compared to your hit count but I appreciate it nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for linking to my NK article. I had 140 individual hits today, my best day yet by far! I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s small compared to your hit count but I appreciate it nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Beloved Leader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beloved Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regime Change in DPRK
Regime change? What's all this talk about regime change? I hereby announce regime change in Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regime Change in DPRK<br />
Regime change? What&#8217;s all this talk about regime change? I hereby announce regime change in Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea!</p>
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