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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Winds of Change.NET</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon's China and East Asia Briefing: 30th Nov 2004
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The following is a digest of highlights from the past month&#8217;s Asia by Blog series over at simonworld.mu.nu. The round-up has four key areas of focus: China, Taiwan  Hong Kong (Politics, Economy  lifestyle, History sport  culture, Information), Kore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: freekorea</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My anecdotal starting point here is that I know far more atheists who attended Catholic school as kids than atheists who did not attend Catholic school as kids.  The surest way to make a perfectly meritorious idea repulsive to people is to spoon-feed it to them.  The surest way to give an idea an appeal out of all proportion to its merit is to give it the lure of the forbidden.

No wonder the Koreans are up in arms about dead men in Koguryo and apathetic about live ones in the North Korean gulag.  

I say let the Koreans say, read, watch, and burn whatever they damn well please.  Government ought to be with the consent of the governed, and if the governed lack the wisdom to govern themselves, the nanny state can't guarantee their survival anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My anecdotal starting point here is that I know far more atheists who attended Catholic school as kids than atheists who did not attend Catholic school as kids.  The surest way to make a perfectly meritorious idea repulsive to people is to spoon-feed it to them.  The surest way to give an idea an appeal out of all proportion to its merit is to give it the lure of the forbidden.</p>
<p>No wonder the Koreans are up in arms about dead men in Koguryo and apathetic about live ones in the North Korean gulag.  </p>
<p>I say let the Koreans say, read, watch, and burn whatever they damn well please.  Government ought to be with the consent of the governed, and if the governed lack the wisdom to govern themselves, the nanny state can&#8217;t guarantee their survival anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess there is no need for me to bash on HoGuk's comment, especially because its obvious he has yet to visit any of those sites.  I am an avid reader of those sites, and if anything, they are CRUCIAL in waking up the Hanchongryun kids from their naive dreams.  If they really wanted to stop "subversive" activities, they would have to shut down Hanchongryun and all the militant labor unions.  (not that that is what I am advocating)

When I read news like this, I get very depressed that the opposition party to the No Moo Hyun regime is actually WORSE.  It looks like Hannara criminals are paranoid that the openings of North Korean websites would just be the beginning of a deluge of orders for such hot North Korean singles like "Whee Pa Ram" and "Women are Flowers" or such popular classics such as the collected literary works of Chairman Kim's views on art, theater, and film.  We all know that will generate enough hard currency to continue their missile production and blah blah blah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there is no need for me to bash on HoGuk&#8217;s comment, especially because its obvious he has yet to visit any of those sites.  I am an avid reader of those sites, and if anything, they are CRUCIAL in waking up the Hanchongryun kids from their naive dreams.  If they really wanted to stop &#8220;subversive&#8221; activities, they would have to shut down Hanchongryun and all the militant labor unions.  (not that that is what I am advocating)</p>
<p>When I read news like this, I get very depressed that the opposition party to the No Moo Hyun regime is actually WORSE.  It looks like Hannara criminals are paranoid that the openings of North Korean websites would just be the beginning of a deluge of orders for such hot North Korean singles like &#8220;Whee Pa Ram&#8221; and &#8220;Women are Flowers&#8221; or such popular classics such as the collected literary works of Chairman Kim&#8217;s views on art, theater, and film.  We all know that will generate enough hard currency to continue their missile production and blah blah blah.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbob</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, living next to an unusual government which will go to unusual extremes (read the bottom link provided) to destabilize South Korea, sometimes requires unusual actions. And it's not just about worrying about North Korean propaganda spreading main stream. It's also about trying to rein in all the radical loose cannons that tries to damage the relationship between the US and S.Korea. The latter reason alone should be enough of a reason, wouldn't you say? 


&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501041115-750859,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501041115-750859,00.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, living next to an unusual government which will go to unusual extremes (read the bottom link provided) to destabilize South Korea, sometimes requires unusual actions. And it&#8217;s not just about worrying about North Korean propaganda spreading main stream. It&#8217;s also about trying to rein in all the radical loose cannons that tries to damage the relationship between the US and S.Korea. The latter reason alone should be enough of a reason, wouldn&#8217;t you say? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501041115-750859,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/asia/.....59,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, its interesting to accuse people of being a fascist for wanting to defend their country. However, its actually dangerous living next to craazy North Korea and I really don?€™t blame the South Koreans for wanting to limit North Korean influence among the gullible youngsters.

No, I don't think its fascist to people to want to defend their country.  I do, however, think it's highly unbecoming of a democracy to ban access to websites because of political content (especially one with IT Superpower aspirations), and it is extremely worrying to hear someone like Rep. Kim argue that somehow, the people are too stupid/gullible to be allowed access to the KCNA and need their minders, i.e., the ICEC, to determine what is appropriate and what is not.  If you want to keep The Children(tm) from viewing political content considered objectionable, then require one to enter their ID number like the gov't does with porn sites.  But that's not what MIC's project seeks to do -- it wants service providers to put blocks on IP addresses so the ignorant masses -- adults included -- can't read them, because as you know, the South Korean public is so dumb that they'll soak up whatever the KCNA tells them [sarcasm off].

Look, I'm all for protecting the nation, and no, I don't belittle the North Korean threat.  But what, extactly, do you think a ban on pro-North Korean websites is going to protect South Korea from?  Bad rhetorical style?  Word-initial "l" (??¹) sounds?  The ideological fringe is going to believe regardless of whether they have free and open access to N. Korean websites or not, and by banning them, all you do is give them political ammunition.  Besides, the fringe groups are much more a product of local conditions within S. Korea than they are of "North Korean propoganda," so it's not like you'd be saving a whole lot of "gullible youngsters" by shutting off some of the few avenues they have to see just how fucked up North Korea really is.

Anyway, perhaps you're right -- maybe knee-jerk libertarianism is a foolish way to go through life.  But on the other hand, if you truly believe that North Korean agitprop -- which is just as outlandish in the original Korean as it is in translation (granted, it sounds better) -- poses a serious threat to the security of the Republic of Korea, well, I guess that ain't saying much about the prospects for liberal democracy on the Korean Peninsula.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, its interesting to accuse people of being a fascist for wanting to defend their country. However, its actually dangerous living next to craazy North Korea and I really don?€™t blame the South Koreans for wanting to limit North Korean influence among the gullible youngsters.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t think its fascist to people to want to defend their country.  I do, however, think it&#8217;s highly unbecoming of a democracy to ban access to websites because of political content (especially one with IT Superpower aspirations), and it is extremely worrying to hear someone like Rep. Kim argue that somehow, the people are too stupid/gullible to be allowed access to the KCNA and need their minders, i.e., the ICEC, to determine what is appropriate and what is not.  If you want to keep The Children(tm) from viewing political content considered objectionable, then require one to enter their ID number like the gov&#8217;t does with porn sites.  But that&#8217;s not what MIC&#8217;s project seeks to do &#8212; it wants service providers to put blocks on IP addresses so the ignorant masses &#8212; adults included &#8212; can&#8217;t read them, because as you know, the South Korean public is so dumb that they&#8217;ll soak up whatever the KCNA tells them [sarcasm off].</p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;m all for protecting the nation, and no, I don&#8217;t belittle the North Korean threat.  But what, extactly, do you think a ban on pro-North Korean websites is going to protect South Korea from?  Bad rhetorical style?  Word-initial &#8220;l&#8221; (??¹) sounds?  The ideological fringe is going to believe regardless of whether they have free and open access to N. Korean websites or not, and by banning them, all you do is give them political ammunition.  Besides, the fringe groups are much more a product of local conditions within S. Korea than they are of &#8220;North Korean propoganda,&#8221; so it&#8217;s not like you&#8217;d be saving a whole lot of &#8220;gullible youngsters&#8221; by shutting off some of the few avenues they have to see just how fucked up North Korea really is.</p>
<p>Anyway, perhaps you&#8217;re right &#8212; maybe knee-jerk libertarianism is a foolish way to go through life.  But on the other hand, if you truly believe that North Korean agitprop &#8212; which is just as outlandish in the original Korean as it is in translation (granted, it sounds better) &#8212; poses a serious threat to the security of the Republic of Korea, well, I guess that ain&#8217;t saying much about the prospects for liberal democracy on the Korean Peninsula.</p>
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		<title>By: Zdunk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"North Korean armies are not coming over the DMZ, and there has been no blitzkrieg across it since 1950 nor does there seem any likelyhood of such again in the foreseeable future"

Gotta disagree with you right off the bat, Mssr. Jing.  I obviously don't think it is imminent (since I remain here) but no likelihood in the forseeable future?  Oh, the risk is a bit higher than zero, and with a regime this secretive, paranoid, and prone to daily bursts of hateful insults to the Republic of Korea, well.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;North Korean armies are not coming over the DMZ, and there has been no blitzkrieg across it since 1950 nor does there seem any likelyhood of such again in the foreseeable future&#8221;</p>
<p>Gotta disagree with you right off the bat, Mssr. Jing.  I obviously don&#8217;t think it is imminent (since I remain here) but no likelihood in the forseeable future?  Oh, the risk is a bit higher than zero, and with a regime this secretive, paranoid, and prone to daily bursts of hateful insults to the Republic of Korea, well&#8230;..</p>
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