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	<title>Comments on: Concert turns into debacle. Hallyu severely wounded in the fray over tickets.</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/02/concert-turns-into-debacle-hallyu-severely-wounded-in-the-fray-over-tickets/#comment-7863</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nulji, if you get back to this part of Marmot's blog, I don't know what the hell you're going on about with killing brown people and so on, but I really enjoy living in Korea, and am always cheering on the country, but sometimes I see Koreans shooting themselves in the foot and have to say something, just like I did about people in L.A. when I lived there. It's personal opinion about a segment of society, not an assault on an entire race. You really should chill, before I report you to Homeland Security ;) (Just a joke! Hugs all around!)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nulji, if you get back to this part of Marmot&#8217;s blog, I don&#8217;t know what the hell you&#8217;re going on about with killing brown people and so on, but I really enjoy living in Korea, and am always cheering on the country, but sometimes I see Koreans shooting themselves in the foot and have to say something, just like I did about people in L.A. when I lived there. It&#8217;s personal opinion about a segment of society, not an assault on an entire race. You really should chill, before I report you to Homeland Security <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> (Just a joke! Hugs all around!)</p>
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		<title>By: nulji maripkan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/02/concert-turns-into-debacle-hallyu-severely-wounded-in-the-fray-over-tickets/#comment-7862</link>
		<dc:creator>nulji maripkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'world cup....olympics...amatuers running them.'

really? the 88 games were well run from my understanding of what i
remember reading shortly after they concluded. world cup in korea 
also went off quite well. amateurs? i don't think  your assessment is 
correct. back up what you're writing here. how are the oympics and world cup
related to sham concerts? and please don't tell me about boxing or the
twelth player, ok? 

*****

looks like bush will retake the white house. a clear indication
that a majority of americans think nothing about killing a 
hundred thousand innocent brown people during a war that was predicated
on distortions, lies, and, deception. 

we'll have more war soon. brace yourself, world. 

ps i'm sure the sean hannitys of the world feel they've
found their penises again. 

'you kill one of us, we have the right to kill anyone who looks
and acts like you. never mind you're innocent. you're all the same 
ragheads with you're spit spewing language.' lush rimbaugh

ps i'd like the moniker 'nulji' to be used if you don't mind, mr hamel.
if tommorow you change your moniker to 'gurga', then that's the name
i would use for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;world cup&#8230;.olympics&#8230;amatuers running them.&#8217;</p>
<p>really? the 88 games were well run from my understanding of what i<br />
remember reading shortly after they concluded. world cup in korea<br />
also went off quite well. amateurs? i don&#8217;t think  your assessment is<br />
correct. back up what you&#8217;re writing here. how are the oympics and world cup<br />
related to sham concerts? and please don&#8217;t tell me about boxing or the<br />
twelth player, ok? </p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>looks like bush will retake the white house. a clear indication<br />
that a majority of americans think nothing about killing a<br />
hundred thousand innocent brown people during a war that was predicated<br />
on distortions, lies, and, deception. </p>
<p>we&#8217;ll have more war soon. brace yourself, world. </p>
<p>ps i&#8217;m sure the sean hannitys of the world feel they&#8217;ve<br />
found their penises again. </p>
<p>&#8216;you kill one of us, we have the right to kill anyone who looks<br />
and acts like you. never mind you&#8217;re innocent. you&#8217;re all the same<br />
ragheads with you&#8217;re spit spewing language.&#8217; lush rimbaugh</p>
<p>ps i&#8217;d like the moniker &#8216;nulji&#8217; to be used if you don&#8217;t mind, mr hamel.<br />
if tommorow you change your moniker to &#8216;gurga&#8217;, then that&#8217;s the name<br />
i would use for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/11/02/concert-turns-into-debacle-hallyu-severely-wounded-in-the-fray-over-tickets/#comment-7861</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nulji--I've lived here for years, and no, I don't mean the whole damn country, Mr. Simplistic, I mean the media and the government is obesessed with international reputation--why else constantly angle for World Cups and Olympics etc. (and I'm not saying anything is wrong with that) and then let amatuers muck it up. This includes the "entertainment" industry, per the link I gave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nulji&#8211;I&#8217;ve lived here for years, and no, I don&#8217;t mean the whole damn country, Mr. Simplistic, I mean the media and the government is obesessed with international reputation&#8211;why else constantly angle for World Cups and Olympics etc. (and I&#8217;m not saying anything is wrong with that) and then let amatuers muck it up. This includes the &#8220;entertainment&#8221; industry, per the link I gave.</p>
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		<title>By: haisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>haisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, one concert going wrong, you can blame the organizers. But what is the concert/screw-up ratio in Korea? Going back to Triport in 1999, attempts at big concerts have regularly bit the big one. Triport washed out (yes, there was a typhoon, but that is what happens when you plan a concert in the middle of the rainy season... and the show was incredibly poorly organized... I was there, I saw for myself).

Even Namie Amuro's show a few months ago was a mess, with the Korean promoters trying to reduce their fees to Namie *after the show*. 

Japan gets Radiohead and Pixies and first-rate jazz. Korea gets Dream Theater and Deep Purple and Kenny G. You make the call.

Japan has J-pop, but also J-rock (Bump A Chicken, Boom Boom Satellites) and jazz and more. Korea has K-pop and... uh, K-pop. And ballads. Lots and lots of ballads. Again, you make the call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, one concert going wrong, you can blame the organizers. But what is the concert/screw-up ratio in Korea? Going back to Triport in 1999, attempts at big concerts have regularly bit the big one. Triport washed out (yes, there was a typhoon, but that is what happens when you plan a concert in the middle of the rainy season&#8230; and the show was incredibly poorly organized&#8230; I was there, I saw for myself).</p>
<p>Even Namie Amuro&#8217;s show a few months ago was a mess, with the Korean promoters trying to reduce their fees to Namie *after the show*. </p>
<p>Japan gets Radiohead and Pixies and first-rate jazz. Korea gets Dream Theater and Deep Purple and Kenny G. You make the call.</p>
<p>Japan has J-pop, but also J-rock (Bump A Chicken, Boom Boom Satellites) and jazz and more. Korea has K-pop and&#8230; uh, K-pop. And ballads. Lots and lots of ballads. Again, you make the call.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shin Jong Il, did you look at the story linked to by Michael about the canceled Scorpians concert? The parallels are interesting.

yes, I agree that Michael did say something silly about Korea wanting to be the centre of attention. 

It is interesting that neither English language newsletter mentioned the story either yesterday or today, although there was  a full page story in today's K Times which was titled "`Korean Wave' Cannot Be Complacent." I thought it might make at least passing reference to the concert cancellation, but nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shin Jong Il, did you look at the story linked to by Michael about the canceled Scorpians concert? The parallels are interesting.</p>
<p>yes, I agree that Michael did say something silly about Korea wanting to be the centre of attention. </p>
<p>It is interesting that neither English language newsletter mentioned the story either yesterday or today, although there was  a full page story in today&#8217;s K Times which was titled &#8220;`Korean Wave&#8217; Cannot Be Complacent.&#8221; I thought it might make at least passing reference to the concert cancellation, but nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: nulji maripkan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nulji maripkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 01:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'korea wants to be cneter of attention and then blows it.'

really? did korea blow it or did the folks involved with the concert 
blow it? you mean if a few individuals commit a crime, all of korea is guilty? 
maybe you're just a racist. 

korea wants to be the center of attention? so? what's wrong with that? 
isn't that what every nation wants? koreans are just learning how to promote their
culture. but not just externally, internally as well. these things have 
happened to koreans too. now that it involves foreigners and growing piles of 
money, you can bet this kind of stuff will be cleaned up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;korea wants to be cneter of attention and then blows it.&#8217;</p>
<p>really? did korea blow it or did the folks involved with the concert<br />
blow it? you mean if a few individuals commit a crime, all of korea is guilty?<br />
maybe you&#8217;re just a racist. </p>
<p>korea wants to be the center of attention? so? what&#8217;s wrong with that?<br />
isn&#8217;t that what every nation wants? koreans are just learning how to promote their<br />
culture. but not just externally, internally as well. these things have<br />
happened to koreans too. now that it involves foreigners and growing piles of<br />
money, you can bet this kind of stuff will be cleaned up.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't unusual:
Inexperience, Irresponsibility Give Black Eye to Entertainment Industry 

Although to be fair, the Chili Peppers/Jane's Addiction concert went alright. Ah, Korea...always wants to be the center of attention...then blows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t unusual:<br />
Inexperience, Irresponsibility Give Black Eye to Entertainment Industry </p>
<p>Although to be fair, the Chili Peppers/Jane&#8217;s Addiction concert went alright. Ah, Korea&#8230;always wants to be the center of attention&#8230;then blows it.</p>
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