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		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/10/24/k-may-we-have-gando-again-c-gando-no-can-do/#comment-7623</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leicht</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Winds of Change.NET</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/10/24/k-may-we-have-gando-again-c-gando-no-can-do/#comment-7618</link>
		<dc:creator>Winds of Change.NET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eyes on Korea: 2004-10-26
Eberstadt's article; China plans annexation?; NK defectors making "big push"; Chinese humanitarianism; Reactions to the NK Human Rights Act; The information war; NK prison camps; Various diplomatic  military strategies; ROK in Iraq; Anti-Americanis...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eyes on Korea: 2004-10-26<br />
Eberstadt&#8217;s article; China plans annexation?; NK defectors making &#8220;big push&#8221;; Chinese humanitarianism; Reactions to the NK Human Rights Act; The information war; NK prison camps; Various diplomatic  military strategies; ROK in Iraq; Anti-Americanis&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not so, China has a number of friends in Asia such as Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea. It maynot mean much when 2 of the 3 are on the Axis of Evil list and the last is a hotbed of islamic fundamentalism, but at least it's something.

Besides, as the saying goes, Nations have no friends, only interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so, China has a number of friends in Asia such as Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea. It maynot mean much when 2 of the 3 are on the Axis of Evil list and the last is a hotbed of islamic fundamentalism, but at least it&#8217;s something.</p>
<p>Besides, as the saying goes, Nations have no friends, only interests.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think cambodia, malaysia and singapore can also be considered friends of china.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think cambodia, malaysia and singapore can also be considered friends of china.</p>
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		<title>By: nulji maripkan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/10/24/k-may-we-have-gando-again-c-gando-no-can-do/#comment-7615</link>
		<dc:creator>nulji maripkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'perhaps the chinese really are worried...'

did korea claim chinese history as their own or did the chinese claim 
korean history as their own? no basis for china's claim to koguryo but
yes, basis for korean sentiment on gando. 

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i wonder if jing won't mind telling us if the chinese realize 
the koreans are about the only people in asia who feel positive 
about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;perhaps the chinese really are worried&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>did korea claim chinese history as their own or did the chinese claim<br />
korean history as their own? no basis for china&#8217;s claim to koguryo but<br />
yes, basis for korean sentiment on gando. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>i wonder if jing won&#8217;t mind telling us if the chinese realize<br />
the koreans are about the only people in asia who feel positive<br />
about them.</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/10/24/k-may-we-have-gando-again-c-gando-no-can-do/#comment-7614</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>?橫[T]he Gando Convention may be legally null and void, but... it is important to approach sovereignty over the region from a non-legal point of view. ?橫

I think this means "OK, yes, we think that legally the Gando Convention isn't worth the paper it's written on, but that and a nickel might get you a gumball.  We all know possession is nine-tenths of the law, especially internationally and just because we have the law on our side doesn't mean that China's going to give it to us.  So we can't just demand it even though we believe that legally we have a good case, because that won't do jack squat.  They're as likely to just give us Gando because of the force of our legal arguments as we are to turn Dokdo/Takeshima/the Liancourt Rocks over to Japan or even an International Court of Justice ruling so long as we've got them.  So let's not press this like a court case when it's not going to make a difference and making a big deal isn't likely to help us."

All of which is pretty darn sensible, if you ask me.  But maybe I'm putting too kind an interpretation on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>?橫[T]he Gando Convention may be legally null and void, but&#8230; it is important to approach sovereignty over the region from a non-legal point of view. ?橫</p>
<p>I think this means &#8220;OK, yes, we think that legally the Gando Convention isn&#8217;t worth the paper it&#8217;s written on, but that and a nickel might get you a gumball.  We all know possession is nine-tenths of the law, especially internationally and just because we have the law on our side doesn&#8217;t mean that China&#8217;s going to give it to us.  So we can&#8217;t just demand it even though we believe that legally we have a good case, because that won&#8217;t do jack squat.  They&#8217;re as likely to just give us Gando because of the force of our legal arguments as we are to turn Dokdo/Takeshima/the Liancourt Rocks over to Japan or even an International Court of Justice ruling so long as we&#8217;ve got them.  So let&#8217;s not press this like a court case when it&#8217;s not going to make a difference and making a big deal isn&#8217;t likely to help us.&#8221;</p>
<p>All of which is pretty darn sensible, if you ask me.  But maybe I&#8217;m putting too kind an interpretation on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you not read anonymous number 2? I specifically mentioned I posted the map "Just to spite Kimbob". Sheesh, the quality of your commentors has certainly taken a turn for the worse with you gone Mr. Marmot! Come back from Mongolia soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you not read anonymous number 2? I specifically mentioned I posted the map &#8220;Just to spite Kimbob&#8221;. Sheesh, the quality of your commentors has certainly taken a turn for the worse with you gone Mr. Marmot! Come back from Mongolia soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jing - Whats the point of showing the map? Why should we trust your map of China in 1846 when it could be questionable just as the Korean ones are. Could you give us a better reason as to why the Korean claims are wrong and the Chinese right? I believe I remember reading your other posts mentioning that the Korean claims are outdated and is a proof of Korea's willing to get its historical glory back, but what of the Chinese claims? Just exactly how long after does a claim become outdated? In that case isn't the claim on Taiwan groundless?  And the argument for the previous Anonymous post is flawed because you cannot argue and say something is right based on the wrong done to others. It just doesn't make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jing - Whats the point of showing the map? Why should we trust your map of China in 1846 when it could be questionable just as the Korean ones are. Could you give us a better reason as to why the Korean claims are wrong and the Chinese right? I believe I remember reading your other posts mentioning that the Korean claims are outdated and is a proof of Korea&#8217;s willing to get its historical glory back, but what of the Chinese claims? Just exactly how long after does a claim become outdated? In that case isn&#8217;t the claim on Taiwan groundless?  And the argument for the previous Anonymous post is flawed because you cannot argue and say something is right based on the wrong done to others. It just doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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