Comments on: Now you can meet with your N. Korean agent friends in the open

By: Simon World

Simon World — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:07:59 +0000

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By: Jing

Jing — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:41:59 +0000

Off topic, but can anyone translate this from Korean into English for me? Someone already gave me a rough translation, but I would like some cooberation and perhaps a more precise translation.

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By: yen jun

yen jun — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:33:23 +0000

“I sound like a paranoid anti-communist in the McCarthy 50s.”

Nooo!!! Are you of that vintage??? What’s the McCarthy 50s anyway??

By: Kimbob

Kimbob — Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:03:43 +0000

“We will turn Seoul into a sea of fire”. Didn’t we hear that before? This time it’s not from the North Koreans. As if Korea hasn’t enough to worry about, it also has to worry about Muslim terrorists who have issued another (3rd in the last two weeks) warning to South Korea, threatning to turn Seoul into a sea of fire.

Of course this isn’t surprising and this was probably what the S.Korean government worried about when they decided to dispatch troops to Iraq. If Seoul does get hit, it would be a calculated sacrifice of Korean citizens’ lives to save the alliance with the US.

http://news.kbs.co.kr/news.php.....amp;kind=c

By: Kimbob

Kimbob — Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:20:53 +0000

Marmot, did you translate this?

http://english.chosun.com/w21d.....90025.html

“We don’t want a sudden North Korea collapse”. So you help them with generous aid and bribes when they have done nothing to reciprocate. There’s the fundalmental problem right there.

Orancay, which is worse, Chosun publishing some caricatures, OR.. North Korean sympathizing, Anti American, Anti free market spies, agitators, subversives, who are in the government, the education, the civic organizations, and the media?

God, I sound like a paranoid anti-communist in the 1950’s US Macarthy era.

By: mr wuggles

mr wuggles — Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:47:15 +0000

wow Kimbob… that part about Hwang Jang Yop is interesting. Did he ever write a book or some sort of full debriefing on the state of NK policy, secret activities towards SK, etc? Is there a URL for something like that?

Im very interested to hear in full what he says (ive only heard bits and pieces). However, I have heard HJY called the “Ahmed Chalabi of North Korea,” ie an exaggerating guy with a hidden agenda. Any thoughts on that?

By: oranckay.net/blog

oranckay.net/blog — Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:27:22 +0000

Having worked at the Chosun for four years and frankly still having higher expectations for it than any other Korean news outlet I’ve worked for, lemmie say this is typical of the Chosun’s occasional lying disinformation and as such is a real tragedy for Korean conservatism because it hurts the cause over the long run to talk such nonsense. Might seem good strategy now, but 10 years from now when Korean democracy is going even stronger the Chosun will still be the paper that came along kicking and screaming.

Article 98 of the criminal code is going to be revised to make it better at fighting espionage. Note that the espionage doesn’t have to be “with violent intent” etc etc, just espionage. How you can’t punish someone for collaborating with NK operatives (or taking money from them - note in lower left hand corner, in the yeogwan, there’s a bundle of cash on the floor) makes no sense. Gathering intel on US facilities in SK at NK’s orders is spying any way you look at it.

By: Kimbob

Kimbob — Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:54:51 +0000

Whatelse is new? All those and more, have been going on way before even the NSA got declawed. Well, it’s pretty much given that Koreans go from one extreme(dictatorship), to another where national security and the rule of law is scrapped in the name of advancing democracy. My goodness, can’t we have a middle ground?

What did the high ranking North Korean defector Hwang Jang Yop say in 1996? He said South Korea had more than 50,000 North Korean spies and agitators operating in the country. That was even before the Kim Jong Il sympathizers came into power South Korea in 1998. I wonder what the numbers are now.

When North Korea collapses, I predict that the secret (who’s who of South Korean government and civilian moles working for North Korea) will be discovered at the ruins of North Korean secret police center, that will shock everybody.