Comments on: China to send 400,000 men to support N. Korea in war?

By: Zach Gorney

Zach Gorney — Thu, 05 May 2005 07:22:22 +0000

US troops lacking disipline? HA! say that to Britin,Spain,Mexico,Germany,Italy,Japan,Afghanistan and Iraq, to much political bull shit got in our way during Vietnam and Korea to mess things up. Be carful what you say buddy.

By: Zach Gorney

Zach Gorney — Thu, 05 May 2005 07:21:57 +0000

By: Speed_Racer_69

Speed_Racer_69 — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 09:24:46 +0000

Look you guys aren’t thinking properly at this point you are not seeing the NUKES that Korea has and the target, Beijing and the 1/3 of Asian people that has to die and well the USA want Asians dead so well they will do the job well, N.Korea vs China, tiawan vs china and then all the other little countries going at it so even what you say it is all wrong, times have changed

By: Mark Buehner

Mark Buehner — Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:08:52 +0000

“Also, I don??t know how good South Korean troops are, but US troops are renenound to be lacking in disipline and to be over reliant on their technology,”

That has been the knock on American troops in every war in our history. Its precisely what the Kaiser thought, what Rommel thought, and what Hussein thought. Its BS. US troops have trained to fight the war in question for 50 years. The terrain is a very narrow front which would constrict NK peasants with rusted, outdated weapons to come storming into the worlds biggest den of landmines, artillery, and machine guns. To paraphrase James Longstreet, you give them enough ammunition and theyll kill every one of them before they reach the lines.

And assuming NKs troops are remotely equivalent in quality to SK is a joke, particularly reservists. SK is one of the half dozen or so truly professional militaries left on the planet. It would be a bloodbath for the North, a disaster for SK civilians, and a slugfest for allied forces, but never remotely a danger of defeat. You have to understand that if you thought Western military hardware was amazing in the last couple wars, you havent seen it at work against masses of enemies charging against it, which is what _it was designed for_.

By: Joe Katzman

Joe Katzman — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:59:54 +0000

Given the many-leveled damage that another Korean War would do to China (incl. the possibility of nuclear exchanges on China’s doorstep these days), I can believe that China would send 400k troops to North Korea once the war started.

I would be even more interested in seeing what they did when they got there. It might not be what Crazy Kim thinks.

By: Captain Scarlet

Captain Scarlet — Mon, 11 Oct 2004 06:58:38 +0000

jing,
i never fight the last war. come on.. that is warfighting 101. you missed the entire point i made so i will not even bother discussing it with you.

By: The Marmot

The Marmot — Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:12:42 +0000

Personally, I think this all comes down to whether or not China deploys those Overlord Tanks like they got in CNC Generals. Get five or so of those babies with Gatling gun and propoganda tower upgrades into the other guy’s base and he’s fucked.

By: Jing

Jing — Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:41:16 +0000

You have a point there. North Korea although an ally still, is more of a liability on long term Chinese interests than it is a benefit. To a certain degree, North Korea is somewhat of an embarassment, a horrible mistake as if it where a continuous cultural revolution. China may in the end not intervene in North Korea if it re-evaluates its priorities. It has been long debated within the communist party itself whether intervening in the Korea war was the proper choice of action. Eventually though Mao won out on the debate, and China commited itself in the ideological struggle of communism and putting thought to action. However, at the time, there were a number of objections raised by other senior party members about getting involved in Korea at all, figuring that an invasion of Taiwan was the better choice of action since it was of primary interests. It wouldn’t be surprising if China does sacrifice the DPRK in exchange for U.S. concessions over the Taiwan straits issue this time around.

By: luisalegria

luisalegria — Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:12:01 +0000

Jing,

That is the precise reason why the Chinese will not save North Korea. China has too much to lose. This is not 1951.

By: Jing

Jing — Sat, 09 Oct 2004 07:54:07 +0000

LoL captain Scarlett, I see you subscribe to the neoconservative school of thought where war has no reprecussions. Even if war breaks out on the Korean peninsula, the most likely occurance will be a repeat of 1951. There will be no U.S. forces staging attacks into China simply because no U.S. government could not stomach escalating the war. For one thing, it would be against U.S. interests, for another, it would put South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan under immediate military risk. You maybe willing to risk an engagement with a nuclear armed power, but I doubt your Japanese allies would be so keen at the prospect of a retaliatory strike of hundreds of IRBM’s launched at Tokyo if the war escalated to such a point.

Amusing to see the conservative warhawks circle-jerk themselves up into a frenzy over their self-avowed military prowress, but the truth is, in this day and age, a full scale confrontation between nuclear armed states leaves no victors, only certain degrees of losers. Such a incident will not happen unless there are major blunders on all sides.