Comments on: Kim Il-sung’s family and North Korean place names http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/ Korea... in Blog Format Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:02:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: kimche http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6450 kimche Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:17:13 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6450 WJK>?? r u in japan now? WJK>??
r u in japan now?

]]> By: WJK http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6449 WJK Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:08:15 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6449 All Koreans should now proceed and learn both English and Chinese very well. That's our way to survival, I guess. All Koreans should now proceed and learn both English and Chinese very well. That’s our way to survival, I guess.

]]> By: WJK http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6448 WJK Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:05:58 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6448 From the Korean nationalistic perspective, it was always the case that the Chinese were good at whatever they were good at because they had so many people and so many resources. Thus, the Koreans have always chosen to bow down to the Chinese instead of fighting them. This beautiful tradition began when Shilla allied with Tang China to defeat Paek Jae and Koguryo. In the late days of the Koryo Kingdom, General Choi and the King of Koryo wanted to invade China. China was at unrest at this point. Koryo had endured the invasions of many Chinese kingdoms, most notably of the Mongolian empire. General Lee and General Choi were ordered by the King of Koryo to invade mainland China. General Lee betrays the King of Koryo, fights Choi and kills him in a big battle, and sets up his own Kingdom, the Kingdom of Chosun. Thus, sadly but truly, it is Korean tradition to stand and stay quiet while the Chinese abuse the Koreans for being weak. Many kings of Koryo and Chosun have bowed their faces to ground in a show of surrender toward Chinese generals. Generals, not emperors. Of course a few of them had to go and bow their faces to the emperors later on. From the Korean nationalistic perspective, it was always the case that the Chinese were good at whatever they were good at because they had so many people and so many resources. Thus, the Koreans have always chosen to bow down to the Chinese instead of fighting them. This beautiful tradition began when Shilla allied with Tang China to defeat Paek Jae and Koguryo. In the late days of the Koryo Kingdom, General Choi and the King of Koryo wanted to invade China. China was at unrest at this point. Koryo had endured the invasions of many Chinese kingdoms, most notably of the Mongolian empire. General Lee and General Choi were ordered by the King of Koryo to invade mainland China. General Lee betrays the King of Koryo, fights Choi and kills him in a big battle, and sets up his own Kingdom, the Kingdom of Chosun. Thus, sadly but truly, it is Korean tradition to stand and stay quiet while the Chinese abuse the Koreans for being weak. Many kings of Koryo and Chosun have bowed their faces to ground in a show of surrender toward Chinese generals. Generals, not emperors. Of course a few of them had to go and bow their faces to the emperors later on.

]]> By: kimbob http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6447 kimbob Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:26:57 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6447 Jing, the reason why I say your anology is so perfect is because Korea is virtually being smothered by China. For example, just go out into the Yellow sea, off of the coast of Korea, and see the thousands of illegal Chinese fishing junks that dot the coastlines like black locust plagues. They sweep the sea clean of life, while they move taking advantage of the North/South Korea border restrictions. I wish the navy will just sink one of the junks and then maybe the stink will hit the fan. But in reality, there is nothing Korea can do about it to stop it. Resistance is futile, you will be covered, smothered and liquidated. Jing, the reason why I say your anology is so perfect is because Korea is virtually being smothered by China. For example, just go out into the Yellow sea, off of the coast of Korea, and see the thousands of illegal Chinese fishing junks that dot the coastlines like black locust plagues. They sweep the sea clean of life, while they move taking advantage of the North/South Korea border restrictions. I wish the navy will just sink one of the junks and then maybe the stink will hit the fan. But in reality, there is nothing Korea can do about it to stop it.

Resistance is futile, you will be covered, smothered and liquidated.

]]> By: kimbob http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6446 kimbob Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:49:49 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6446 "Chinese are real-life Borg. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. All your base are belong to us." Jing, that just about sums it all up, doesn't it? Good way to describe what's going on. “Chinese are real-life Borg. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. All your base are belong to us.”

Jing, that just about sums it all up, doesn’t it?
Good way to describe what’s going on.

]]> By: Jing http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6445 Jing Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:13:15 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6445 Thats quite the extrapolation you made from that one small article (which was not without errors in the first place). You make it sound as if the Chinese are real-life Borg. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. All your base are belong to us. Thats quite the extrapolation you made from that one small article (which was not without errors in the first place). You make it sound as if the Chinese are real-life Borg. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. All your base are belong to us.

]]> By: kimbob http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6444 kimbob Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:45:40 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6444 Take a look at this article regarding China's economic advances into Mongolia. It won't be long before all the Chinese move into Mongolia, outnumbering the Mongolians, own all the big companies and businesses - wiping out Mongolian culture, and then one day China will declare overnight, that Mongolia was always part of China (ancient provincial state), and that Mongolians are Chinese in origin. Then China will annex Mongolia, with the claim that Mongolia always belonged to China. They did the same things to Tibet and to the Turkic states in the west. <a href="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/e060678e-0845-11d9-9d00-00000e2511c8.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.ft.com/cms/s/e060678e-0845-11d9-9d00-00000e2511c8.html</a> Take a look at this article regarding China’s economic advances into Mongolia. It won’t be long before all the Chinese move into Mongolia, outnumbering the Mongolians, own all the big companies and businesses - wiping out Mongolian culture, and then one day China will declare overnight, that Mongolia was always part of China (ancient provincial state), and that Mongolians are Chinese in origin. Then China will annex Mongolia, with the claim that Mongolia always belonged to China. They did the same things to Tibet and to the Turkic states in the west.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/e0606.....511c8.html

]]> By: yen jun http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6443 yen jun Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:17:18 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6443 WJK: Gando??? That's so...last century. But yes, I think I was very rude to someone, and someone complained about it. Wasn't it you? My humble apologies, then. It seemed so clever (to me, anyway) but, taking a step back, it wasn't. Apologies. Anyway, I shan't open another can of worms venturing into American territory. I only know Bush is not my man WJK:

Gando??? That’s so…last century. But yes, I think I was very rude to someone, and someone complained about it.

Wasn’t it you? My humble apologies, then. It seemed so clever (to me, anyway) but, taking a step back, it wasn’t.

Apologies.

Anyway, I shan’t open another can of worms venturing into American territory. I only know Bush is not my man

]]> By: WJK http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6442 WJK Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:08:34 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6442 Yen Jun, you don't think it's weird that Clinton's prosperous America faded with the dot come boom, and that Bush's tax cuts actually lets Amazon.com make money for the first time in 2004 while it ran on debt since its founding? I think Bush's tax cuts minimized the hit on the economy. It's sooo off topic, but you put it here, so I'm just putting something back. And, you called me down in the Gando section, but never apologized, so I think you should let your retaliation fizzle away :) Yen Jun, you don’t think it’s weird that Clinton’s prosperous America faded with the dot come boom, and that Bush’s tax cuts actually lets Amazon.com make money for the first time in 2004 while it ran on debt since its founding?

I think Bush’s tax cuts minimized the hit on the economy. It’s sooo off topic, but you put it here, so I’m just putting something back. And, you called me down in the Gando section, but never apologized, so I think you should let your retaliation fizzle away :)

]]> By: Jing http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/09/15/kim-il-sungs-family-and-north-korean-place-names/#comment-6441 Jing Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:06:24 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=1082#comment-6441 I know this is a little off topic... but I think Kimbob dismisses the most obvious problem with Koreans claiming the Gando area simply because ethnic Koreans live there. Communist governments are generally not known to be subtle with their minority populations if they become "recalcitrant". If push comes to shove, the PRC could very well either flood Gando with Han Chinese or as mr. Marmot briefly mentioned, simply relocate all the Koreans there to say, central Henan. I know this is a little off topic… but I think Kimbob dismisses the most obvious problem with Koreans claiming the Gando area simply because ethnic Koreans live there. Communist governments are generally not known to be subtle with their minority populations if they become “recalcitrant”. If push comes to shove, the PRC could very well either flood Gando with Han Chinese or as mr. Marmot briefly mentioned, simply relocate all the Koreans there to say, central Henan.

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