American guy-Korean girl relationships, evil GIs ruining it for “good” Westerners, poor local girls too afraid to talk to whitey — I wouldn’t touch this blog discussion between DeadOnArIVAL’s Dream and Lost Nomad with a 10-foot pole, but it’s fun to read, and if you’ve got something to say, I’m sure they’d appreciate it.
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I won’t go into a long rant. But here it is. So why do Korean girls have such ‘misconceptions’ about western foreigner guys? To give you an ideal, just click and read the ‘Bulletin Board” at
http://www.theseoultimes.com/
Just about every post in there is about “dumb gooks”, “Korean bitches”, “gook sluts”, “fuck, whores”, “take it up the ass”, etc etc etc etc etc.
Gee I wonder why so many Koreans get such bad and unfair perceptions of western guys as arrogant, hypocritically prejudiced, filthy, foul mouthed, sex maniacs with a chip on their shoulder losers?? Just look around the community of expats in Korea, and see how unfair that perception is. Is that inaccurate to say so?
Hahaha, that explains the 300+ hits I’ve received today. I couldn’t figure it out (I knew it wasn’t my eloquent prose) until I looked at the trackback. Yeah I’m still figuring this blogging thing out and hope to have it down before too long.
Thanks for the post and link…I think.
yep, take a good look at the seoul times readerboard and you will notice that koreans blame anything and everything on americans and use very ugly language. its pretty funny how kimbob chooses to only comment on one side of the coin.
And I don’t put too much stock in any of those discussion forums (and I use the term loosely) as it’s too easy to take on multiple personalities (just look at the KH forum) and then start a flame war, using your multiple ID’s to back you up.
I mean, Jesus, Kimbob, I could point out a piece in yesterday’s Chosun that pointed out that 30 percent of foreign female workers who marry Korean men suffer from abuse. I could also point you to some of the more interesting things Korean Netizens say about foreigners on Korean-language online forums. What does that mean, Kimbob? Absolutely nothing. Just means some people lack online maturity.
that circle of irony guy is a whining fucking loser. he is dating girls that can’t keep their pants on. then the girls have the gall to blame guys for not wanting to go out with them because they are hoes. why would i want to date a hoe? have some freaking class girls before you go blaming guys for dumping you for being easy. i’ve been on the dating scene in korea and i can tell you that you can’t turn you back on a lot of korean women. if you do, they’ll be in bed with someone else.
For some reason, I’m seeing a two way street here and both those posts provide an example of each side.
Pretty simply if you ask me…
As if there aren’t heaps of women in western countries who are also afraid of being used and forgotten?
Sounds to me like the chick just tried to let him down easy.
If this guy seriously believes he can’t get a date because of soldiers spoiling korean women- he has a serious problem with reality. Stop whining- girls don’t like whiners. Get out there. BTW Seoul is an excellent place to get a date.
Bringing up a new thread…my impression is that the “old” generation thought all Korean women who married GI’s were women with “no choice” (whatever that means, or whatever that’s a euphemism for). As a result, there used to be a stigma attached to Korean women who dated white men (somehow, white men equated to “GIs”). (wrt “GIs spoiling it for all non-Korean women to date Korean women” — I’m thinking this isn’t just a recent phenomenon (I know you’re all debating this, but let’s assume it’s true even though it could be as simple as “he’s whiny and not taking responsibility for himself”), but a social issue reaching far back to the Korean war…)
I’m a bit surprised to hear about all the interracial dating in Korea. How common is it?
uhh — freudian slip there about ” non korean women dating korean women…” I meant to say “non-korean men dating korean women.”
About these easy women in Seoul….got any phone numbers?
Bwahahahaha.
I think every whiner on this topic needs to listen to Tom Leykis, ASAP.
C(h)ristine: I think there’s a fair amount of interracial dating in Korea. My girlfriend is on a Korean message board (in Korean) and there’s a lot of activity on it. There’s also a lot of hostility directed towards it, so that membership and content are somewhat moderated to prevent recurrences of previous hate-spewage that happened before.
And it’s not all white male GIs and English teachers dating Korean girls. There’s women married to French businessmen, Korean guys married to Russian women… There’s a lot of variety. Though, of course, it’s mainly white guys and Korean girls.
Most foreigners I know of in a relationship are dating Koreans, with a few exceptions, and depending on how you define “Korean” and “foreigner”… Korean-blooded-foreigners, for example, I count as “foreigners”, but many Koreans seem to consider “almost-Korean”.
Anyway, yeah, it’s not rare by any stretch of the imagination. But I don’t think it’s as if a foreign guy needs to just snap his fingers and a girl will appear. (It wasn’t like that for me, anyway.) And I think it’s a fair bit rarer for foreign women to find Korean men they’d like to date. But it’s stereotypical for a white guy anf Korean girl to be a couple, and for a reason; it’s a relatively common thing to see in expat circles in Korea.
Also, non-white foreigners don’t seem to date Korean girls much. I saw a scene in a film recently — I forget the title of the film — in which a young woman is teased for always seeming to attract Southeast Asian migrant workers. (It was set in Incheon, where I presume there are a lot of foreign Asian workers.)
sexual domination
Stupid GIs scaring awa…
Hey Supergook…we will do the same when you get your visa-overstaying, tax-avoiding, living 20 to a room like cockroaches, soju-swilling, cheapskate ugly countrymen out of cities like Los Angeles and back to that pig sty you call kimchi-land.