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		<title>By: Winds of Change.NET</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/08/04/dprk-developing-missiles-to-hit-us-mainland/#comment-5256</link>
		<dc:creator>Winds of Change.NET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon's E. Asia Overview: Aug 25/04
It's time to have a look at East Asia and what's been making the news in Asian blogs over the past month. We cover China (in depth), as well as Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, and Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore et. al).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon&#8217;s E. Asia Overview: Aug 25/04<br />
It&#8217;s time to have a look at East Asia and what&#8217;s been making the news in Asian blogs over the past month. We cover China (in depth), as well as Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, and Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore et. al).</p>
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		<title>By: Simon World</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/08/04/dprk-developing-missiles-to-hit-us-mainland/#comment-5255</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asia by Blog - Month in review
Thank you to everyone for the good wishes. Everyone is doing well. Now to keep you going...as part of the Winds of Change team I provide a monthly briefing on Asian goings-on, particularly China and SE Asia. I thought this would give me a good opportun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asia by Blog - Month in review<br />
Thank you to everyone for the good wishes. Everyone is doing well. Now to keep you going&#8230;as part of the Winds of Change team I provide a monthly briefing on Asian goings-on, particularly China and SE Asia. I thought this would give me a good opportun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Webb, USA</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/08/04/dprk-developing-missiles-to-hit-us-mainland/#comment-5254</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Webb, USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 06:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the Anglophones back in March 2003, I wondered why a majority of Americans, British, and Australians supported the invasion, but Canadians did not.  Must be the French influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the Anglophones back in March 2003, I wondered why a majority of Americans, British, and Australians supported the invasion, but Canadians did not.  Must be the French influence.</p>
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		<title>By: Zdunk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/08/04/dprk-developing-missiles-to-hit-us-mainland/#comment-5253</link>
		<dc:creator>Zdunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 10:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Webb, this discussion is finished.  You are so far gone, so lunatic, that we will say nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Webb, this discussion is finished.  You are so far gone, so lunatic, that we will say nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Webb, USA</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/08/04/dprk-developing-missiles-to-hit-us-mainland/#comment-5252</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Webb, USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kimchipig, "Paul, why don?€™t you make a positive effort for the Iraq war..go an enlist."

I answered this question in my previous post.  The abbreviation after my name here is a clue.

kimchipig, "The ?€œdeposing dictators?€? line is pure brainwashing."

No, dictators are the sole remaining threat to the free world.  History shows that a liberal democracy does not go to war with another liberal democracy.  A democracy represented by the people have no interest in attacking another country who share those same values.  Here's another (and strange) way of putting it: a country with a McDonald's has never been at war with another country with a McDonald's.  Take a look at this map for example:

&lt;a href="http://www.freedomhouse.org/pdf_docs/research/freeworld/2003/map2003.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.freedomhouse.org/pdf_docs/research/freeworld/2003/map2003.pdf&lt;/a&gt;

After all these countries are green, we neocons will have to find another cause, like colonizing Mars.

kimchipig, "Seeing American kids getting killed in an unwinnable war pains me a lot."

I'm glad you commisserate with the sacrifices of our fighting forces, but I think you're being disingenuous here.  American soldiers are dying in Iraq now so American civilians won't have to jump off the 80th floor of a burning building with no parachute later.  You seem to care about American soldiers dying, but what about all the Iraqis who died under Saddam?  What about the men who were put into wood chipping machines feet first?  What about the women who were raped by Uday and then fed to his Dobermans?  Did these deaths 'pain you'?  But yeah, you're right, they're just a bunch of brownskins, they don't matter much. 

kimchipig, "there is no oil in Syria. What about Iran?"

These two countries are next.  Be patient.  One dictator at a time.

freekorea, "it?€™s unlikely Francegermany would send any troops, much less a significant number."

Do you see the irony here?  Why do the Eurowhiners have underdeveloped militaries?  Because they're a part of NATO and know that the U.S. will save them.  They complain about U.S. "hegemony," when they know it's U.S. "hegemony" that protects them, like in WW2 and the Cold War.

Zdunk, "I like Americans. I detest the far-right faction of the Republican party is all."

I'm actually a neocon more than a Republican.  Remember, "a neoconservative is a liberal who's been mugged by reality."  We had influence in the LBJ administration and then McGovern and Carter ignored us.  We found our savior in Ronald Reagan and we've all defected to the Republicans since.  

Vote for Bush.  He listens to neocons.  Don't vote for Kerry.  He listens to Jane Fonda.  If you want to see the U.S. military stand down and Islamofascism make wonderful strides in the next four years, then vote for Kerry.

kimchipig, "Because America way is the only way."

What is the Canadian way?  We want to hear your ideas.  What is the alternative to fighting Islamofascism/terrorism?  I can never get a straight answer from liberals on this question.  Unfortunately, I think your answer is that you are willing to see a "nuclear 9/11" in Baltimore or Paris before taking all these inevitable actions.  We had our 9/11, we're not going to see another one. 

And since when does an alleged "global hegemon" simultaenously be a whipping boy. Which one is it? You can't have both. These are incompatible ideas. Sheesh. I give up. Have it your way.  Let Osama run the world. I'm off to Mars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kimchipig, &#8220;Paul, why don?€™t you make a positive effort for the Iraq war..go an enlist.&#8221;</p>
<p>I answered this question in my previous post.  The abbreviation after my name here is a clue.</p>
<p>kimchipig, &#8220;The ?€œdeposing dictators?€? line is pure brainwashing.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, dictators are the sole remaining threat to the free world.  History shows that a liberal democracy does not go to war with another liberal democracy.  A democracy represented by the people have no interest in attacking another country who share those same values.  Here&#8217;s another (and strange) way of putting it: a country with a McDonald&#8217;s has never been at war with another country with a McDonald&#8217;s.  Take a look at this map for example:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freedomhouse.org/pdf_docs/research/freeworld/2003/map2003.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedomhouse.org/pd.....ap2003.pdf</a></p>
<p>After all these countries are green, we neocons will have to find another cause, like colonizing Mars.</p>
<p>kimchipig, &#8220;Seeing American kids getting killed in an unwinnable war pains me a lot.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you commisserate with the sacrifices of our fighting forces, but I think you&#8217;re being disingenuous here.  American soldiers are dying in Iraq now so American civilians won&#8217;t have to jump off the 80th floor of a burning building with no parachute later.  You seem to care about American soldiers dying, but what about all the Iraqis who died under Saddam?  What about the men who were put into wood chipping machines feet first?  What about the women who were raped by Uday and then fed to his Dobermans?  Did these deaths &#8216;pain you&#8217;?  But yeah, you&#8217;re right, they&#8217;re just a bunch of brownskins, they don&#8217;t matter much. </p>
<p>kimchipig, &#8220;there is no oil in Syria. What about Iran?&#8221;</p>
<p>These two countries are next.  Be patient.  One dictator at a time.</p>
<p>freekorea, &#8220;it?€™s unlikely Francegermany would send any troops, much less a significant number.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you see the irony here?  Why do the Eurowhiners have underdeveloped militaries?  Because they&#8217;re a part of NATO and know that the U.S. will save them.  They complain about U.S. &#8220;hegemony,&#8221; when they know it&#8217;s U.S. &#8220;hegemony&#8221; that protects them, like in WW2 and the Cold War.</p>
<p>Zdunk, &#8220;I like Americans. I detest the far-right faction of the Republican party is all.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually a neocon more than a Republican.  Remember, &#8220;a neoconservative is a liberal who&#8217;s been mugged by reality.&#8221;  We had influence in the LBJ administration and then McGovern and Carter ignored us.  We found our savior in Ronald Reagan and we&#8217;ve all defected to the Republicans since.  </p>
<p>Vote for Bush.  He listens to neocons.  Don&#8217;t vote for Kerry.  He listens to Jane Fonda.  If you want to see the U.S. military stand down and Islamofascism make wonderful strides in the next four years, then vote for Kerry.</p>
<p>kimchipig, &#8220;Because America way is the only way.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is the Canadian way?  We want to hear your ideas.  What is the alternative to fighting Islamofascism/terrorism?  I can never get a straight answer from liberals on this question.  Unfortunately, I think your answer is that you are willing to see a &#8220;nuclear 9/11&#8243; in Baltimore or Paris before taking all these inevitable actions.  We had our 9/11, we&#8217;re not going to see another one. </p>
<p>And since when does an alleged &#8220;global hegemon&#8221; simultaenously be a whipping boy. Which one is it? You can&#8217;t have both. These are incompatible ideas. Sheesh. I give up. Have it your way.  Let Osama run the world. I&#8217;m off to Mars.</p>
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		<title>By: Zdunk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/08/04/dprk-developing-missiles-to-hit-us-mainland/#comment-5251</link>
		<dc:creator>Zdunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you are the beacon of impartial rationality, right?  Psshaw!

I like Americans.  I detest the far-right faction of the Republican party is all.  The kind of people who bark directives at Canada to shut up and follow.  You are the person with the closed worldview, buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you are the beacon of impartial rationality, right?  Psshaw!</p>
<p>I like Americans.  I detest the far-right faction of the Republican party is all.  The kind of people who bark directives at Canada to shut up and follow.  You are the person with the closed worldview, buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: kimchipig</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimchipig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 07:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because America way is the only way. However, tell me that in five years and I will believe you. Have a look at Iraq's history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because America way is the only way. However, tell me that in five years and I will believe you. Have a look at Iraq&#8217;s history.</p>
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		<title>By: freekorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>freekorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 07:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually posted a detailed analysis of the deployable military strength of Canada and Francegermany yesterday:

&lt;a href="http://freekorea.blogspot.com/2004/08/secret-plan-to-end-war.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://freekorea.blogspot.com/2004/08/secret-plan-to-end-war.html&lt;/a&gt;

The answer is that Canada's forces are indeed already deployed to the max, so sending Canadians to Iraq never had to be an issue.  If you look at the strength of the French and German militaries, you find that if both of them scraped together every last soldat, they could come up with 36,000 troops--about 1/4 of U.S. strength in Iraq now.  And of course, it's unlikely Francegermany would send any troops, much less a significant number.  Unless Kerry is thinking of using troops from Russia, China, or some other country about which I'd never have guessed, I see no way he could pull it off.

The only allied forces who can replace us are the Iraqis themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually posted a detailed analysis of the deployable military strength of Canada and Francegermany yesterday:</p>
<p><a href="http://freekorea.blogspot.com/2004/08/secret-plan-to-end-war.html" rel="nofollow">http://freekorea.blogspot.com/.....d-war.html</a></p>
<p>The answer is that Canada&#8217;s forces are indeed already deployed to the max, so sending Canadians to Iraq never had to be an issue.  If you look at the strength of the French and German militaries, you find that if both of them scraped together every last soldat, they could come up with 36,000 troops&#8211;about 1/4 of U.S. strength in Iraq now.  And of course, it&#8217;s unlikely Francegermany would send any troops, much less a significant number.  Unless Kerry is thinking of using troops from Russia, China, or some other country about which I&#8217;d never have guessed, I see no way he could pull it off.</p>
<p>The only allied forces who can replace us are the Iraqis themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand, between Afghanistan and Canada's other peacekeeping operations worldwide, the Canadian military is stretched rather thin itself.  I'm not sure what Kimchipig's stance on Canadian participation in Afghanistan is, but I'm sure the Defense Ministry has a website he could use if he's interested in helping Canada fulfill its NATO obligations.  Kimchipig: Bloggin' from Kabul -- I see definite possibilities there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand, between Afghanistan and Canada&#8217;s other peacekeeping operations worldwide, the Canadian military is stretched rather thin itself.  I&#8217;m not sure what Kimchipig&#8217;s stance on Canadian participation in Afghanistan is, but I&#8217;m sure the Defense Ministry has a website he could use if he&#8217;s interested in helping Canada fulfill its NATO obligations.  Kimchipig: Bloggin&#8217; from Kabul &#8212; I see definite possibilities there.</p>
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		<title>By: freekorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>freekorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 05:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimchipig, Your mouth is way ahead of the facts again.  This "chickenhawk" served for seven and a half years and is still in the reserves.  Tell me, when did you ever put your safety or comfort on the line for something you believed in?  Are your beliefs worth defending or are they printed on toilet paper?

As for "imperialism," I noticed that Canada was very upset at being cut out of the post-war contracts.  If Canada takes the highly principled stand that it won't do any business with this new American colony (as opposed to doing business with Saddam), I'd give your argument a lot more weight.

America's way happens to be right in this case.  So is Britain's, the Czech Republic's, Kuwait's, Italy's, Poland's, and Japan's.  If that's unilateral, you slept through geometry class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimchipig, Your mouth is way ahead of the facts again.  This &#8220;chickenhawk&#8221; served for seven and a half years and is still in the reserves.  Tell me, when did you ever put your safety or comfort on the line for something you believed in?  Are your beliefs worth defending or are they printed on toilet paper?</p>
<p>As for &#8220;imperialism,&#8221; I noticed that Canada was very upset at being cut out of the post-war contracts.  If Canada takes the highly principled stand that it won&#8217;t do any business with this new American colony (as opposed to doing business with Saddam), I&#8217;d give your argument a lot more weight.</p>
<p>America&#8217;s way happens to be right in this case.  So is Britain&#8217;s, the Czech Republic&#8217;s, Kuwait&#8217;s, Italy&#8217;s, Poland&#8217;s, and Japan&#8217;s.  If that&#8217;s unilateral, you slept through geometry class.</p>
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