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	<title>Comments on: Don Imus pisses off the Hankyoreh</title>
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		<title>By: Scott-in-Japan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4417</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott-in-Japan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shin jong il - 

"why not tell us what's so stupid about it?"
The article didn't reach any point, aside from whining.  The article was simply a listing of opinions which *almost* became clear, coherent thoughts.

"let me guess, an angry lil expat who wasn't treated special in korea..."
My experience in Korea was great, the article was horrible - there is a difference, please learn that.  I was treated VERY well in Korea, but I am currently living in Japan, and am a very mellow expat.

The reason for my reading here is my interest in moving to Korea.  My exposure to Korea/Seoul was excellent and I am deciding if I really want to move there.  Poorly written articles are making me rethink my decision.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shin jong il - </p>
<p>&#8220;why not tell us what&#8217;s so stupid about it?&#8221;<br />
The article didn&#8217;t reach any point, aside from whining.  The article was simply a listing of opinions which *almost* became clear, coherent thoughts.</p>
<p>&#8220;let me guess, an angry lil expat who wasn&#8217;t treated special in korea&#8230;&#8221;<br />
My experience in Korea was great, the article was horrible - there is a difference, please learn that.  I was treated VERY well in Korea, but I am currently living in Japan, and am a very mellow expat.</p>
<p>The reason for my reading here is my interest in moving to Korea.  My exposure to Korea/Seoul was excellent and I am deciding if I really want to move there.  Poorly written articles are making me rethink my decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4416</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NYT piece was the usual Korean aigo chamnah, but Jung was right about the Korea-US relationship being unequal--it's far too favorable to Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYT piece was the usual Korean aigo chamnah, but Jung was right about the Korea-US relationship being unequal&#8211;it&#8217;s far too favorable to Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shin Jong Il has real issues and is best ignored. 

The NYT article in case isn't terrible by the standards of commentary we've seen (and the NYT wil print just about any anti-warscfreed), but it does miss the point and is factually off base:

Offending passages: 

The first deployment was comprised of military engineers and doctors, but this time we will send combat forces, tanks and heavy artillery. If the government has its way, South Korea will have the third largest number of foreign troops in Iraq, behind the United States and Britain.

So Mr. Kim's death is only the beginning of another reel. What will follow is more South Korean casualties, then another call for additional troops, then more deaths. Our government keeps talking about the national interest, but what does that mean? The privilege to win more subcontracts to supply pillows and sunglasses to American soldiers only to be taken from the delivery truck, killed and tossed out, headless and booby-trapped?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shin Jong Il has real issues and is best ignored. </p>
<p>The NYT article in case isn&#8217;t terrible by the standards of commentary we&#8217;ve seen (and the NYT wil print just about any anti-warscfreed), but it does miss the point and is factually off base:</p>
<p>Offending passages: </p>
<p>The first deployment was comprised of military engineers and doctors, but this time we will send combat forces, tanks and heavy artillery. If the government has its way, South Korea will have the third largest number of foreign troops in Iraq, behind the United States and Britain.</p>
<p>So Mr. Kim&#8217;s death is only the beginning of another reel. What will follow is more South Korean casualties, then another call for additional troops, then more deaths. Our government keeps talking about the national interest, but what does that mean? The privilege to win more subcontracts to supply pillows and sunglasses to American soldiers only to be taken from the delivery truck, killed and tossed out, headless and booby-trapped?</p>
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		<title>By: WJK</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>WJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what if, what if you're wrong, Shin?

Then...who looks ignorant, and prejudiced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if, what if you&#8217;re wrong, Shin?</p>
<p>Then&#8230;who looks ignorant, and prejudiced?</p>
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		<title>By: shin jong il</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>shin jong il</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'and yes, it's really stupid...' japanese guy

why not tell us what's so stupid about it? right now, the only one who looks, stupid, scott, is you. 

let me guess, an angry lil expat who wasn't treated special in korea but has a korean wife and half korean children. i'd bet my bottom dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;and yes, it&#8217;s really stupid&#8230;&#8217; japanese guy</p>
<p>why not tell us what&#8217;s so stupid about it? right now, the only one who looks, stupid, scott, is you. </p>
<p>let me guess, an angry lil expat who wasn&#8217;t treated special in korea but has a korean wife and half korean children. i&#8217;d bet my bottom dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott-in-Japan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4412</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott-in-Japan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pulgogi - Thanks for posting the NY-Times link.  And yes, it's really stupid.

Does anyone have a link (english) to an article discussing the parents-of-Kim-Sun-Il's lawsuit against the Korean gov't?  It sounds too true to be made up.  But there has to be more to the rumor than I've heard.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pulgogi - Thanks for posting the NY-Times link.  And yes, it&#8217;s really stupid.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a link (english) to an article discussing the parents-of-Kim-Sun-Il&#8217;s lawsuit against the Korean gov&#8217;t?  It sounds too true to be made up.  But there has to be more to the rumor than I&#8217;ve heard&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: pulgogi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulgogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American Expats:

New York Times has a guest editorial from some Korean guy/girl

&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/30/opinion/30HAYU.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/30/opinion/30HAYU.html&lt;/a&gt;

It's really stupid, but interesting since Korean issues are rarely discussed on the Times op-ed page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Expats:</p>
<p>New York Times has a guest editorial from some Korean guy/girl</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/30/opinion/30HAYU.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06.....0HAYU.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s really stupid, but interesting since Korean issues are rarely discussed on the Times op-ed page.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4410</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hankyoreh (widely thought of as the Rodong Sinmun, Seoul branch - I call it the BukHanyoreh) is more an agit-prop outlet than a real newspaper. That article cites two offensive MSNBC examples in TWO YEARS. Anyone able to read Korean media could find probably two MILLION examples of racism in the Korean media in far less time, including racist cartoon depictions of whites or blacks in the Hankyoreh cartons. What's more, and issues of taste notwithstanding, Imus and Leno are satirists/humorists and offending Korean media are serious. Pot meet kettle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hankyoreh (widely thought of as the Rodong Sinmun, Seoul branch - I call it the BukHanyoreh) is more an agit-prop outlet than a real newspaper. That article cites two offensive MSNBC examples in TWO YEARS. Anyone able to read Korean media could find probably two MILLION examples of racism in the Korean media in far less time, including racist cartoon depictions of whites or blacks in the Hankyoreh cartons. What&#8217;s more, and issues of taste notwithstanding, Imus and Leno are satirists/humorists and offending Korean media are serious. Pot meet kettle.</p>
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		<title>By: WJK</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4409</link>
		<dc:creator>WJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to my knowledge, some Korean citizens died with the twin towers on 911.  They were working abroad with Korean citizenships intact.  They make a huge mourning for Kim Sun Il, but I'm sure they forgot about Korean people who perished with 911.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to my knowledge, some Korean citizens died with the twin towers on 911.  They were working abroad with Korean citizenships intact.  They make a huge mourning for Kim Sun Il, but I&#8217;m sure they forgot about Korean people who perished with 911.</p>
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		<title>By: WJK</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/06/30/don-imus-pisses-off-the-hankyoreh/#comment-4408</link>
		<dc:creator>WJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awhile ago, after 911 and after the killing of the 2 Korean girls by a US military vehicle, South Koreans on some discussion boards (yahoo.co.kr) posted disturbing messages with phrases such as "Laden Oppa"

Translated, roughly, "Brother Bin Laden".

Very disturbing to me at that time.  They were praising someone, a terrorist, who inflicted mass murder on US citizens. 

I wonder if they will praise Brother Bin Laden now that Kim Sun-Il has been beheaded, but the "brother Turkish men" were released with their necks intact.

I read a piece in ohmynews that called for sending in civilian workers to rebuild Iraq instead of sending troops. 

Ever heard of Nick Berg, Kim Sun-Il, etc?

It's actually a safe and responsible thing that troops are doing that rebuilding/engineering stuff.  Those coward terrorists in Iraq will have a feast capturing civilian workers for their terror demands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awhile ago, after 911 and after the killing of the 2 Korean girls by a US military vehicle, South Koreans on some discussion boards (yahoo.co.kr) posted disturbing messages with phrases such as &#8220;Laden Oppa&#8221;</p>
<p>Translated, roughly, &#8220;Brother Bin Laden&#8221;.</p>
<p>Very disturbing to me at that time.  They were praising someone, a terrorist, who inflicted mass murder on US citizens. </p>
<p>I wonder if they will praise Brother Bin Laden now that Kim Sun-Il has been beheaded, but the &#8220;brother Turkish men&#8221; were released with their necks intact.</p>
<p>I read a piece in ohmynews that called for sending in civilian workers to rebuild Iraq instead of sending troops. </p>
<p>Ever heard of Nick Berg, Kim Sun-Il, etc?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually a safe and responsible thing that troops are doing that rebuilding/engineering stuff.  Those coward terrorists in Iraq will have a feast capturing civilian workers for their terror demands.</p>
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