Comments on: Formation of the Goguryeo state http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/04/01/formation-of-the-goguryeo-state/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:12:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Antti http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/04/01/formation-of-the-goguryeo-state/#comment-2913 Antti Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:16:43 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=667#comment-2913 A comment not especially to this post but to the Gogureyo question in general. Rupert Atkinson from the Academy of Korean Studies (in Suwon) left an interesting note at the Korean Studies mailing list about a recent presentation at the institute: Last week, Dr. Leonid Petrov gave a talk at AKS on this subject and made the interesting suggestion that China is in fact responding to North Korean attempts to distort Korean history. Title: Restoring the Glorious Past: North Korean Juch'e Historiography and Koguryo Contents: 1) Koguryo as a Bone of Contention. 2) The Creation of Juch'e Historiography in North Korea 3) Historical Research in DPRK between the 1960s and 1990s 4) The Current State of Research on Koguryo in North Korea 5) Conclusion: What does Koguryo Mean to the DPRK?See, I've learned the blockquote command... Don't know if the presentation will be available later at Dr Petrov's homepage. Check the site for articles on North Korea and else in English, Chinese, Korean and Russian. A comment not especially to this post but to the Gogureyo question in general. Rupert Atkinson from the Academy of Korean Studies (in Suwon) left an interesting note at the Korean Studies mailing list about a recent presentation at the institute: Last week, Dr. Leonid Petrov gave a talk at AKS on this subject and made the interesting suggestion that China is in fact responding to North Korean attempts to distort Korean history.
Title: Restoring the Glorious Past: North Korean Juch’e Historiography and Koguryo
Contents:
1) Koguryo as a Bone of Contention.
2) The Creation of Juch’e Historiography in North Korea
3) Historical Research in DPRK between the 1960s and 1990s
4) The Current State of Research on Koguryo in North Korea
5) Conclusion: What does Koguryo Mean to the DPRK?See, I’ve learned the blockquote command…
Don’t know if the presentation will be available later at Dr Petrov’s homepage. Check the site for articles on North Korea and else in English, Chinese, Korean and Russian.

]]> By: Jeffery Hodges http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/04/01/formation-of-the-goguryeo-state/#comment-2912 Jeffery Hodges Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:12:15 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=667#comment-2912 I have been trying to keep up with this issue ever since I first became aware of it last fall, when I was working at Hanshin University and pursuing a research project with a couple of Korean professors on the problems that Korea will confront in re-unifying (some years hence). I didn't find this article in the Korea Herald especially enlightening. Some of the previous nine articles were much better, and I wish that the Herald had an immediate link to them. (At least, I didn't see any link). I'll take a look at the wikipaedia.com link provided by Shin Jong Il. There was an international conference last Friday and Saturday sponsored by Korea University (where I'm now employed), but I didn't find out until Tuesday last week, and even then, accessing the details of the schedule was nearly impossible -- with only an email received early Thursday providing me with some general information. As things turned out, I had to spend all day Friday dealing with bureaucratic stuff like going to Seoul to get a new foreign ID card, only to learn that I needed to go to Suwon instead because I live in Osan. Is that complicated, or what? Okay, bio aside, did anybody out there attend this conference? I think that it took place at Seoul Museum. I'd be interested in knowing about the proceedings because there were supposed to be speakers from South Korea, China, Japan, Russia, and the U.S., maybe other places, too. I have been trying to keep up with this issue ever since I first became aware of it last fall, when I was working at Hanshin University and pursuing a research project with a couple of Korean professors on the problems that Korea will confront in re-unifying (some years hence).

I didn’t find this article in the Korea Herald especially enlightening. Some of the previous nine articles were much better, and I wish that the Herald had an immediate link to them. (At least, I didn’t see any link). I’ll take a look at the wikipaedia.com link provided by Shin Jong Il.

There was an international conference last Friday and Saturday sponsored by Korea University (where I’m now employed), but I didn’t find out until Tuesday last week, and even then, accessing the details of the schedule was nearly impossible — with only an email received early Thursday providing me with some general information. As things turned out, I had to spend all day Friday dealing with bureaucratic stuff like going to Seoul to get a new foreign ID card, only to learn that I needed to go to Suwon instead because I live in Osan. Is that complicated, or what?

Okay, bio aside, did anybody out there attend this conference? I think that it took place at Seoul Museum. I’d be interested in knowing about the proceedings because there were supposed to be speakers from South Korea, China, Japan, Russia, and the U.S., maybe other places, too.

]]> By: shin jong il http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/04/01/formation-of-the-goguryeo-state/#comment-2911 shin jong il Thu, 01 Apr 2004 18:48:34 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=667#comment-2911 check out wikipaedia.com. it's a free online encylopaedia that's well detailed. it's also current. it metions the attempts by china to hijack korean history. and though it does not take sides, it does say something like the following: korean historical documents treat koguryo as korean. chinese historical documents treat the kingdoms of shilla, baekche, and koguryo as if they were one. you can find this in the koguryo section under the heading of KOREAN history. lastly, a word about the 'dongbeiren' or rather the north easterners of what is now north eastern china; these people say that since their ancestors were ruled by koguryo, koguryo cannot be korean. well, yes it can. you see, koreans cannot calim mongol history. understand? mr marmot, i hope you don't mind me metioning this here but your comparing tiananmen/mao and the japanese pm visiting yasukuni is really one of the apple and orange variety. of course, tiananmen/mao is an internal affair of the chinese people; mao killed his own. the japanese war criminals housed at yasukuni killed millions of people who were not their own. can you understand that? and please don't tell me you don't have the ability because you're a westerner, that's bs; you're human, aren't you? and you know what? you don't have to agree with the koreans on this but how about being a bit more gracious? finally, i thought choen to yeon looked alright in the movie but looked aweful during her interview on the second disk. i thought lee mee sook was far prettier. anyway, if 'scandal' had been set in modern times, i would have fallen asleep. it was the historical visuals that kept my interest. and Mr Sugar Shin, yes, spam is great in twoenjang. about three thin slices cut into small cubes per dookbaegee. and don't forget the bacon, about two slices cut into pieces. one last one, try putting a quarter of instant ramyon noodles in there. wow! ps, i will try the mushrooms. sounds great. check out wikipaedia.com. it’s a free online encylopaedia that’s well detailed. it’s also current. it metions the attempts by china to hijack korean history. and though it does not take sides, it does say something like the following:

korean historical documents treat koguryo as korean. chinese historical documents treat the kingdoms of shilla, baekche, and koguryo as if they were one.

you can find this in the koguryo section under the heading of KOREAN history.

lastly, a word about the ‘dongbeiren’ or rather the north easterners of what is now north eastern china; these people say that since their ancestors were ruled by koguryo, koguryo cannot be korean. well, yes it can. you see, koreans cannot calim mongol history. understand?

mr marmot, i hope you don’t mind me metioning this here but your comparing tiananmen/mao and the japanese pm visiting yasukuni is really one of the apple and orange variety. of course, tiananmen/mao is an internal affair of the chinese people; mao killed his own. the japanese war criminals housed at yasukuni killed millions of people who were not their own. can you understand that? and please don’t tell me you don’t have the ability because you’re a westerner, that’s bs; you’re human, aren’t you?

and you know what? you don’t have to agree with the koreans on this but how about being a bit more gracious?

finally, i thought choen to yeon looked alright in the movie but looked aweful during her interview on the second disk. i thought lee mee sook was far prettier. anyway, if ’scandal’ had been set in modern times, i would have fallen asleep. it was the historical visuals that kept my interest.

and Mr Sugar Shin, yes, spam is great in twoenjang. about three thin slices cut into small cubes per dookbaegee. and don’t forget the bacon, about two slices cut into pieces. one last one, try putting a quarter of instant ramyon noodles in there. wow!

ps, i will try the mushrooms. sounds great.

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