Comments on: The power of Christ compels you! http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/ Korea... in Blog Format Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:13:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Captain Scarlet http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2804 Captain Scarlet Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:15:58 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2804 hey shin, you are a confused little boy, mkay? it wasn't america that attacked the north.. it was the north that attacked the south. it is the north's fault that there is a south korea because they let themselves be used by russia to start a proxy war with us. now quit playing with your little jaji and read a history book or two. btw, i was treated like a movie star by more than a few korean hotties when i lived in korea. not to mention thailand and the other asian countries that i traveled also. girls like tall, large, athletically built men like me and it doesn't hurt that i am damn good looking as well. as for me being a liar.. if i was standing right in front of you.. you wouldn't have the nuts to call me a liar. i don't care whether you think i am telling the truth or not. i do like korea and miss living there. hey shin,
you are a confused little boy, mkay? it wasn’t america that attacked the north.. it was the north that attacked the south. it is the north’s fault that there is a south korea because they let themselves be used by russia to start a proxy war with us. now quit playing with your little jaji and read a history book or two.

btw, i was treated like a movie star by more than a few korean hotties when i lived in korea. not to mention thailand and the other asian countries that i traveled also. girls like tall, large, athletically built men like me and it doesn’t hurt that i am damn good looking as well.

as for me being a liar.. if i was standing right in front of you.. you wouldn’t have the nuts to call me a liar. i don’t care whether you think i am telling the truth or not. i do like korea and miss living there.

]]> By: shin jong il http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2803 shin jong il Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:20:32 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2803 yeah, scarlet, america isn't the father of modern korea but i understand your need to write what you write. however, i will throw you a bone, dog, you're right that the states is reponsible for there being a south korea. absolutely right about that. the states is also responsible for there being a north korea too. don't forget that, wounded guy. ok? you said in another post that you really like/love the koreans. i thought you were a liar then and i think you're a liar now. what you really are is a lil angry western guy, angry you're not treated like a movie star by the good folks of the shilla, baekche, and koguryo. newsflash, scarlet, you're not a movie star and you're not special. if i can see that via a computor, you think the koreans can't see that when they take a good look at your sorry mug? go and play with your commander, gerry. yeah, scarlet, america isn’t the father of modern korea but i understand your need to write what you write. however, i will throw you a bone, dog, you’re right that the states is reponsible for there being a south korea. absolutely right about that. the states is also responsible for there being a north korea too. don’t forget that, wounded guy. ok?

you said in another post that you really like/love the koreans. i thought you were a liar then and i think you’re a liar now. what you really are is a lil angry western guy, angry you’re not treated like a movie star by the good folks of the shilla, baekche, and koguryo. newsflash, scarlet, you’re not a movie star and you’re not special. if i can see that via a computor, you think the koreans can’t see that when they take a good look at your sorry mug? go and play with your commander, gerry.

]]> By: Captain Scarlet http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2802 Captain Scarlet Thu, 25 Mar 2004 05:07:36 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2802 sugar, "I firmly believe in freedom & democracy, the existence of universal, nature-given human rights. Park started his "presidency" with a coup d'etat and rolled with tanks over a (I must admit a weak) democratically elected government." i think we all believe in freedom and democracy. however, i believe that PCH saw that the communist were going to cause a lot of trouble and decided to take action. most likely he saved your country. all, like i said, uncle sam is "arguably" the father of modern korea. i simply pointed out one factor that america did to help korea. there are certainly more. like the fact that there is even a south korea... or the fact that you reverse engineered everything we made and sold it back to us and we never enforced copyright on you. the list goes on. sugar,
“I firmly believe in freedom & democracy, the existence of universal, nature-given human rights. Park started his “presidency” with a coup d’etat and rolled with tanks over a (I must admit a weak) democratically elected government.”

i think we all believe in freedom and democracy. however, i believe that PCH saw that the communist were going to cause a lot of trouble and decided to take action. most likely he saved your country.

all,
like i said, uncle sam is “arguably” the father of modern korea. i simply pointed out one factor that america did to help korea. there are certainly more. like the fact that there is even a south korea… or the fact that you reverse engineered everything we made and sold it back to us and we never enforced copyright on you. the list goes on.

]]> By: Michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2801 Michael Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:45:05 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2801 Looks like I left the party just when it was starting up. Mr. Mehlhorn, I stand corrected. Mr. Marmot, a scoundrel is a disreputable person, and I still think Park qualifies for that distinction. Mr. Woon, whatever, yes I "automatically" think democracy is preferable to authoritarianism, not that I don't know realpolitik when I see it. If you want beatings with rubber hoses for expressing your opinion (which S.K.'s democracy is allowing you to do right here), try the nutbin that's about 100 kilometers north of Seoul. Looks like I left the party just when it was starting up. Mr. Mehlhorn, I stand corrected. Mr. Marmot, a scoundrel is a disreputable person, and I still think Park qualifies for that distinction. Mr. Woon, whatever, yes I “automatically” think democracy is preferable to authoritarianism, not that I don’t know realpolitik when I see it. If you want beatings with rubber hoses for expressing your opinion (which S.K.’s democracy is allowing you to do right here), try the nutbin that’s about 100 kilometers north of Seoul.

]]> By: shin jong il http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2800 shin jong il Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:44:26 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2800 'ahem, uncle sam is the father of modern korea.' scarlet uh, ahem, no, the koreans headed by park are the ones who are responsible for modern korea. quite a few countries in the world have recieved quite a bit of aid from us, mr scarlet. what have they done with it? where are the successes that rivel south korea's? is the west the father of modern japan? is america the father of modern germany? 'during the vietnam war, we pumped so much money into their economy...' yes, and the koreans pumped so much blood into your war against the vietnamese. tell me, would you tell a (korean) mother who's child was lost in the vietnam war that she benefitted from her son's death? something tells me you would. i wonder, if i give you one hundred thousand dollars to create the business of your dreams, and you're ultimately succeed, am i the one who is really responsible for your success? when you pay off a house, is it the banks hard work that made it so? i wonder. please try to have a nice day wherever you are and whatever your rank. go out and get some really good kimchi samgyoupsahl. eat it with a side of yakee mahndoo. man, you're going to have real treat. tell em jong il sent you. ‘ahem, uncle sam is the father of modern korea.’ scarlet

uh, ahem, no, the koreans headed by park are the ones who are responsible for modern korea. quite a few countries in the world have recieved quite a bit of aid from us, mr scarlet. what have they done with it? where are the successes that rivel south korea’s? is the west the father of modern japan? is america the father of modern germany?

‘during the vietnam war, we pumped so much money into their economy…’

yes, and the koreans pumped so much blood into your war against the vietnamese. tell me, would you tell a (korean) mother who’s child was lost in the vietnam war that she benefitted from her son’s death? something tells me you would.

i wonder, if i give you one hundred thousand dollars to create the business of your dreams, and you’re ultimately succeed, am i the one who is really responsible for your success? when you pay off a house, is it the banks hard work that made it so? i wonder.

please try to have a nice day wherever you are and whatever your rank. go out and get some really good kimchi samgyoupsahl. eat it with a side of yakee mahndoo. man, you’re going to have real treat. tell em jong il sent you.

]]> By: Sugar Shin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2799 Sugar Shin Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:16:32 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2799 "ultimately, whatever view you have of him is probably colored by your political beliefs." - Captain Scarlet Yeah, I firmly believe in freedom & democracy, the existence of universal, nature-given human rights. Park started his "presidency" with a coup d'etat and rolled with tanks over a (I must admit a weak) democratically elected government. With his later installed Yushin-movement Park went beyond being "only" an efficient ruler of a rapid developing country. His main political opponents like Kim Dae-Jung or Kim Young-Sam were not communists or freaky "Great Leader"-followers. "how many dictators do you know create a capitalist economy and give businesses the freedom they need to operate? i can't think of any in modern time." - Captain Scarlet Maybe Chiang Kai-Shek and his son in the Republic of China (Taiwan), Dr. Mahatir (the most anti-Semite statesman of SE Asia) of Malaysia, Pinochet of Chile and last but not least Deng Xiao-Ping/ Jiang Ze-Min of China. The list is only exemplary and not complete. "as we have seen in America, freedom makes you vulnerable to attack and even in America we have had to give up a little freedom to stop the terrorist." - Captain Scarlet The Patriot Act 1 and 2 would not have prevented an attack like the high-jacking terrorists of 9/11, it was IMO a failure of the domestic intelligence agencies structure of the FBI, NSA, CIA and the befriended agencies in Europe or the Middle East. When the freedom-loving countries give up their civil rights, then the terrorists are on the winning side, because they hate democracy, humanity and liberty more than anything else. “ultimately, whatever view you have of him is probably colored by your political beliefs.” - Captain Scarlet

Yeah, I firmly believe in freedom & democracy, the existence of universal, nature-given human rights. Park started his “presidency” with a coup d’etat and rolled with tanks over a (I must admit a weak) democratically elected government.
With his later installed Yushin-movement Park went beyond being “only” an efficient ruler of a rapid developing country. His main political opponents like Kim Dae-Jung or Kim Young-Sam were not communists or freaky “Great Leader”-followers.

“how many dictators do you know create a capitalist economy and give businesses the freedom they need to operate? i can’t think of any in modern time.” - Captain Scarlet
Maybe Chiang Kai-Shek and his son in the Republic of China (Taiwan), Dr. Mahatir (the most anti-Semite statesman of SE Asia) of Malaysia, Pinochet of Chile and last but not least Deng Xiao-Ping/ Jiang Ze-Min of China. The list is only exemplary and not complete.

“as we have seen in America, freedom makes you vulnerable to attack and even in America we have had to give up a little freedom to stop the terrorist.” - Captain Scarlet
The Patriot Act 1 and 2 would not have prevented an attack like the high-jacking terrorists of 9/11, it was IMO a failure of the domestic intelligence agencies structure of the FBI, NSA, CIA and the befriended agencies in Europe or the Middle East. When the freedom-loving countries give up their civil rights, then the terrorists are on the winning side, because they hate democracy, humanity and liberty more than anything else.

]]> By: The Marmot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2798 The Marmot Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:48:31 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2798 Scarlet -- I'll be the last one to belittle the role Americans had in South Korea's development, but I have to say that we pumped a lot of money into a lot of "monkeys," to to speak, who came up with nothing or not a whole lot in the end -- to which, see Zaire, Pakistan, and Egypt. Aid, and lots of it, is important, but so is having someone at the other end of it who knows what to do with it. That's what made Park's role so important. Scarlet — I’ll be the last one to belittle the role Americans had in South Korea’s development, but I have to say that we pumped a lot of money into a lot of “monkeys,” to to speak, who came up with nothing or not a whole lot in the end — to which, see Zaire, Pakistan, and Egypt. Aid, and lots of it, is important, but so is having someone at the other end of it who knows what to do with it. That’s what made Park’s role so important.

]]> By: Captain Scarlet http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2797 Captain Scarlet Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:53:22 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2797 Sugar Shin, PCH didn't start out as a dictator but he certainly attained those attributes toward the end. keep in mind that he had to suppress a very active communist element inside Korea so he had to have severe restrictions on liberties. as we have seen in America, freedom makes you vulnerable to attack and even in America we have had to give up a little freedom to stop the terrorist. it was no different with PCH. how many dictators do you know create a capitalist economy and give businesses the freedom they need to operate? i can't think of any in modern time. ultimately, whatever view you have of him is probably colored by your political beliefs. Sugar Shin,
PCH didn’t start out as a dictator but he certainly attained those attributes toward the end. keep in mind that he had to suppress a very active communist element inside Korea so he had to have severe restrictions on liberties. as we have seen in America, freedom makes you vulnerable to attack and even in America we have had to give up a little freedom to stop the terrorist. it was no different with PCH.

how many dictators do you know create a capitalist economy and give businesses the freedom they need to operate? i can’t think of any in modern time.

ultimately, whatever view you have of him is probably colored by your political beliefs.

]]> By: Captain Scarlet http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2796 Captain Scarlet Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:43:49 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2796 marmot, Ahem, Uncle Sam is (arguably) the father of modern Korea. Korean wouldn't even be close to where it is today without us. during the Vietnam war, we pumped so much money into their economy that it equaled over 60% of their GDP. Not to belittle what President Park did, but a monkey could have been president and not done too bad either. marmot,
Ahem, Uncle Sam is (arguably) the father of modern Korea. Korean wouldn’t even be close to where it is today without us. during the Vietnam war, we pumped so much money into their economy that it equaled over 60% of their GDP. Not to belittle what President Park did, but a monkey could have been president and not done too bad either.

]]> By: Sugar Shin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/23/the-power-of-christ-compels-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2795 Sugar Shin Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:23:02 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=647#comment-2795 Hm, Park Chung-Hee is probably the most contorversial political figure of recent Korean history. His economical laurels taken aside, he was a ambitious AND cruel dictator. And a dictator is a dictator is a dictator... Hm, Park Chung-Hee is probably the most contorversial political figure of recent Korean history. His economical laurels taken aside, he was a ambitious AND cruel dictator. And a dictator is a dictator is a dictator…

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