Comments on: GNP Young Turks: ‘Withdraw the Impeachment.’ GNP head Choe: ‘Get the f*** out.’ http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/21/gnp-young-turks-withdraw-the-impeachment-gnp-head-choe-get-the-f-out/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:48:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: usinkorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/21/gnp-young-turks-withdraw-the-impeachment-gnp-head-choe-get-the-f-out/#comment-2746 usinkorea Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:13:28 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=641#comment-2746 Withdrawing the impeachment would be as incredibly stupid as many other things the Korean government and parties do. It would push the rule of law in Korea back even further.... Withdrawing the impeachment would be as incredibly stupid as many other things the Korean government and parties do. It would push the rule of law in Korea back even further….

]]> By: Captain Scarlet http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/21/gnp-young-turks-withdraw-the-impeachment-gnp-head-choe-get-the-f-out/#comment-2745 Captain Scarlet Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:27:51 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=641#comment-2745 Noh could have avoided the impeachment by apologizing for the admittedly small mistakes he made. instead he chose to rant about his enemies and caused a guy to jump off a bridge. i have no sympathy for Noh. he deserved what he got. Noh could have avoided the impeachment by apologizing for the admittedly small mistakes he made. instead he chose to rant about his enemies and caused a guy to jump off a bridge. i have no sympathy for Noh. he deserved what he got.

]]> By: The Marmot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/21/gnp-young-turks-withdraw-the-impeachment-gnp-head-choe-get-the-f-out/#comment-2744 The Marmot Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:49:50 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=641#comment-2744 OK, here's the thing -- Roh was not popular before the impeachment, and many (if not most) people seem to think he's incompetent. Yet he was elected, and when you look at the criminals who impeached him, all you can do is shake your head and say, "WTF"? It strikes too many people as a cheap way for two embattled political parties (the GNP and MDP) to help themselves in the general election (if not an outright attempt at a parliamentary coup), and that seems to have backfired. It's a big jump from going "the guy's a fool" to "he's a jerk who should be impeached." You need to actually do something massively illegal to make that jump, and Roh simply hasn't yet. BTW, there were small pro-impeachment demonstrations today in the Gwanghwamun area. Apparently North Korean human rights activist Norbert Vollertsen was there, which was a huge mistake on his part, if I may say so. Supporting human rights in North Korea is one thing; supporting corrupt politicians with checkered pasts trying to impeach an elected leader without just cause is quite another. If I see him again in the Chosun Ilbo's coffee lounge, I'm going to make it a point to tell him that, too. OK, here’s the thing — Roh was not popular before the impeachment, and many (if not most) people seem to think he’s incompetent. Yet he was elected, and when you look at the criminals who impeached him, all you can do is shake your head and say, “WTF”? It strikes too many people as a cheap way for two embattled political parties (the GNP and MDP) to help themselves in the general election (if not an outright attempt at a parliamentary coup), and that seems to have backfired. It’s a big jump from going “the guy’s a fool” to “he’s a jerk who should be impeached.” You need to actually do something massively illegal to make that jump, and Roh simply hasn’t yet.

BTW, there were small pro-impeachment demonstrations today in the Gwanghwamun area. Apparently North Korean human rights activist Norbert Vollertsen was there, which was a huge mistake on his part, if I may say so. Supporting human rights in North Korea is one thing; supporting corrupt politicians with checkered pasts trying to impeach an elected leader without just cause is quite another. If I see him again in the Chosun Ilbo’s coffee lounge, I’m going to make it a point to tell him that, too.

]]> By: Captain Scarlet http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/21/gnp-young-turks-withdraw-the-impeachment-gnp-head-choe-get-the-f-out/#comment-2743 Captain Scarlet Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:34:48 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=641#comment-2743 are the people really against it or is it a vocal minority? Noh is an incompetent asshole (my wife's words) and he is killing the korean economy. why would they not want him gone? are the people really against it or is it a vocal minority? Noh is an incompetent asshole (my wife’s words) and he is killing the korean economy. why would they not want him gone?

]]> By: Brendon Carr http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/21/gnp-young-turks-withdraw-the-impeachment-gnp-head-choe-get-the-f-out/#comment-2742 Brendon Carr Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:13:46 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=641#comment-2742 I agree with the Marmot. We are witness to an astonishing feat of political jiujitsu (or taekwondo, maybe -- I don't know the doctrines of martial arts). Roh *is* an incompetent clown and he *was* enormously disappointing and unpopular prior to the impeachment vote. But the GNP/MDP crooks originally were and now, after the impeachment vote, *are* more unpopular than he. Roh correctly noted that when the focus is on his own shitty, haphazard performance and crooked assemblage of cronies, he looks bad. The voters were forgetting about how awful the GNP/MDP really are. Now, thanks to the erstwhile ruling clan lunging at the flimsiest legal pretext to remove him, Roh gets to turn the National Assembly vote from a referendum on him to a referendum on *them*. In an absolute sense, Roh is a total failure. But by making it a relative judgment, he knows that he looks good by comparison. I agree with the Marmot.

We are witness to an astonishing feat of political jiujitsu (or taekwondo, maybe — I don’t know the doctrines of martial arts). Roh *is* an incompetent clown and he *was* enormously disappointing and unpopular prior to the impeachment vote. But the GNP/MDP crooks originally were and now, after the impeachment vote, *are* more unpopular than he. Roh correctly noted that when the focus is on his own shitty, haphazard performance and crooked assemblage of cronies, he looks bad. The voters were forgetting about how awful the GNP/MDP really are. Now, thanks to the erstwhile ruling clan lunging at the flimsiest legal pretext to remove him, Roh gets to turn the National Assembly vote from a referendum on him to a referendum on *them*.

In an absolute sense, Roh is a total failure. But by making it a relative judgment, he knows that he looks good by comparison.

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