Now you change.

Mt Fuji.
http://www.d2.dion.ne.jp/~wami/haiking/010817e.JPG

Mt Jodo
http://www.europe-z.com/garden.....to/236.jpg

no wonder why the spikes have holes.

Does the book actually say “driving metal spikes”?

In documentary, When topographer start searching the good spot in that theory, every time they found that metal spike in many major mountain in our country or found tunnel which cut the range of Mt.s without reason which had made when Japan occupied Korea. Documentary showed still they are looking for that stick and tried to remove it. AT that time they had already found lots of other metal spike. Any many of them were hidden.

I don’t know if the above pic shows that one or not. But Many topographer had found that spike in all of areas where the place should have been preserved more than other place. Who would dare put metal spike in that place among Koreans?

I??р꽓ve Just searched internet, and it tells topographer had found total 120 metal spike and they assumed there must be around 200 metal in Korea.

I don??р꽓t know it can affect our history or not.
But at least .. isn??р꽓t it funny Japan even wanted to vanish such kinds of things. If you start learning what they have done, you can notice they were so keen to vanish the country in culturally, in spiritually and in phisically , seenably unseenably.

In documentary, When topographer start searching the good spot in that theory, every time they found that metal strike in many major mountain in our country or found tunnel which cut the range of Mt.s without reason which had made when Japan occupied Korea. Documentary showed still they are looking for that stick and tried to remove it. AT that time they had already found lots of other metal stick. Any many of them were hidden.

I don’t know if the above pic shows that one or not. But Many topographer had found that stick in all of areas where the place should have been preserved more than other place. Who would dare put metal strike in that place among Koreans?

I??р꽓ve Just searched internet, and it tells topographer had found 120 metal strike and they assumed there must be around 200 metal in Korea.

I don??р꽓t know it can affect our history or not.
But at least .. isn??р꽓t it funny Japan even wanted to vanish such kinds of things. If you start learning what they have done, you can notice they were so keen to vanish the country in culturally, in spiritually and in phisically , seenably unseenably.

So much for the “let’s remember the past” bit by keeping them there. Thus, the whole Arizona thing (which honestly confused me, I wasn’t angered by it at all) really didn’t compare. Which still confuses me why you brought it up… until your last comment, of course.

Your recent response continues into the overtly-emotional response category. I know you use it as an example and don’t feel that way, but your approach seems not to get the correct approach across. How many Koreans even KNEW of the spikes’ existance? How many could look up every day of their lives and SEE this ‘huge’ (which it’s not, but your example uses a physically large one) example of Japanese imperialism and impression? How many suffered because of it? I mean, hey, if the Japanese built huge shrines over them, something VERY obvious, with the express intent of crushing Korean morale, then… yeah, it’d be a pretty big deal. Hell, if they had stuck giant Rising Sun flags into the dirt to mark it as their pissing grounds, THAT would be offensive. I completely agree with you there.

However, it’s not an immediately obvious thing, it doesn’t seem like they really went through with the procedure in an intelligent fashion, and… well, it looks like they were just using Korean beliefs against themselves.

Read the last part of my first post. If this “symbolic japanese spike is not exagerrated chidlplay” to you, then remember the meaning and effect behind it and deal with it in an intelligent way. I rather like John’s suggestion… taking the ’symbol of the enemy’ and making it their own ’symbol of defiance’ (while I’d love to see something identical to his suggestion, I do believe that the nation would have to do something in better taste… still, one can always wish). I rather believe that he and I are both QUITE American in this regard… if your (even one-time) enemy does something to harm you, you do something even bigger as a sign of defiance. The WTC was destroyed by terrorists… the design for the building to replace it is even bigger and more ornate, serving both as a symbol of perseverance and defiance.

Of course, it’s a bit late to deal with it now, as the spikes were disposed of decades ago… but the lesson remains. Life does go on, we remember (and honor) the events of the past, but we don’t and should not go through a ‘victim routine’ decades after the fact. Your last comparison, though intended as an extreme example and expressed as being such (with no intent or effect of offending me) is actually more accurate than the sentences before it. It IS annoying, to me, the whole victimization concept. Korea has done SO MUCH in recent decades and could do so much more if that mentality is left behind. It is the sensible thing to do, and I think many individuals could agree. Unfortunately, groups of people (and thus cultures) are rarely sensible. It seems to me, from my limited view, that this social trait is both quite unreasonable and a hindrance

The original post was definately interesting information and a good news read, if any of my posts should seem to indicate otherwise.

Well, specifically, because I wasn’t born at the time and wasn’t alive through the event, so I had no say in the particular case.

Personally, I would have scrapped the thing to rebuild a new, operational ship. But then again, they used it as a MUSEUM PIECE as well. THey converted it into a monument that preserved useful memories and recorded an important event. In that case, I agree with you… if you want to draw that comparison, maybe YOU should see to it that those spikes are preserved and a memorial built on each of them. That is the equivalent action. And it has been pointed out that previous Americans have done PLENTY of needless disrespect in response. But now we get into the discussion about the rightness and wrongness of war, etc.

In other comparisons, your approach doesn’t hold up. The Arizona was not a Japanese ship that was placed purposefully in the port. It was an American vessel that was a target of a legitimate military attack that was at once both brilliant (a pre-emptive strike against your foe’s chosen method of force-projection before they are aware that you are a foe) and foolish (they didn’t bother to hunt down the American aircraft carriers, which insured the eventual demise of the Japanese fleet).

“Don’t know Koreans very well do you … ”
–ari(w)rong

Not as well as natives, no. I am quite aware of their ‘victimization’ trends, and that is, honestly, what annoys me and is the whole core of my post. Quite willing to waste time, effort, and emotion on past events that, when seen from an objective viewpoint, are downright pointless. Even if the claims are true, I find it rather amazing that they would consider their ’spiritual world’ and belief so weak as to be broken and marred forever by what is, in essence, an oversized railroad spike.

Though, now it has been posted that it might not have been a spike… ok… well, that makes us all look downright silly, doesn’t it?

There is no symbolic act that can not be countered or reversed by another.

Marmot–Sorry, I’d looooove to view the other stuff, but since I post from a workplace, it’s not something I can do. =(

Recently the (US-based) international animal rights activists PETA were comparing in its globally released ads, against what they call animal “torture” and “abuse”, pictures of naked malnourished KZ-prisoners behind barb wire with pictures of chickens in poultry farms. The text was: “Another Holocaust”. It was really disgusting to watch this kinda crap.

Many British companies also frequently broadcast TV-commercials for beer, sausages etc. with Nazi garbe and Hitler as well. I?쨈ve also seen several mindless Nazi-theme-commericals from Brazil, Australia, Poland etc., etc., etc. The only countries (to my knowledge), which constantly protest on a government level against such insults to the Nazi-victims are Israel and Germany. The whole world is filled with this bullshit and the Korean society is no exception among them.

I hope my statement was understandable enough, because English is not my mother tongue.