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		<title>By: Owen Rathbone</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/01/12/note-to-foreign-ministry-officials/#comment-1485</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen Rathbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marmot: If it is not a set up, Roh still may be blowing something out of proportion to put the blame on others for his inability to put Korea "on an equal footing" with the US. The reality is this idea of Korea being "equal" is just not possible -- since Korea's economic and political power is not on par with the US. However, those who supported Roh and helped him get elected still think he "reneged" on his promises; thus, Roh will single out these "leakers" as a way of saying, "Hey, they weren't doing what I asked. I am really not pro-US. I really am in favor of a more independent stance." This will, he expects, bolster his flagging support in some quarters, at least among the ROSAMOistas.

You are right, though, however Roh uses this situation to distance himself from those whom will be labeled "pro-US," there will not be any real change in South Korea's policies. It is unrealistic to think Korea can "go it alone" or "defy" the US. For its own self-interest, it has to be somewhat accomodating. If the ROK were not, it would seriously harm the Korean economy. Indeed, many of Korea's current economic problems are at lesat partly due to the uncertainty surrounding Roh and his left-leaning tendencies. 

If I am incorrect and the story is as it appears, on the other hand, then Roh is certainly handling it the wrong way. You may recall how the US media was saying there were differences of opinion between Rumsfeld and the military brass. Maybe there were, but top military officials came out and denied it, smoothing things over. You did not see Rumsfeld threatening to fire anyone or making his anger public. The Bush admin knew that any signs of disunity would only undermine their position. They no doubt worked out a plan behind the scenes to deflect the media's attempts to drive a wedge between Rumsfeld and military leaders. In other words, I would not blame the "leakers" per se but Roh's public handling of the situation.

Still, it's all really vague. I cannot get a sense exactly what was said and by whom and how serious it really was. It might be the media distorting something again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marmot: If it is not a set up, Roh still may be blowing something out of proportion to put the blame on others for his inability to put Korea &#8220;on an equal footing&#8221; with the US. The reality is this idea of Korea being &#8220;equal&#8221; is just not possible &#8212; since Korea&#8217;s economic and political power is not on par with the US. However, those who supported Roh and helped him get elected still think he &#8220;reneged&#8221; on his promises; thus, Roh will single out these &#8220;leakers&#8221; as a way of saying, &#8220;Hey, they weren&#8217;t doing what I asked. I am really not pro-US. I really am in favor of a more independent stance.&#8221; This will, he expects, bolster his flagging support in some quarters, at least among the ROSAMOistas.</p>
<p>You are right, though, however Roh uses this situation to distance himself from those whom will be labeled &#8220;pro-US,&#8221; there will not be any real change in South Korea&#8217;s policies. It is unrealistic to think Korea can &#8220;go it alone&#8221; or &#8220;defy&#8221; the US. For its own self-interest, it has to be somewhat accomodating. If the ROK were not, it would seriously harm the Korean economy. Indeed, many of Korea&#8217;s current economic problems are at lesat partly due to the uncertainty surrounding Roh and his left-leaning tendencies. </p>
<p>If I am incorrect and the story is as it appears, on the other hand, then Roh is certainly handling it the wrong way. You may recall how the US media was saying there were differences of opinion between Rumsfeld and the military brass. Maybe there were, but top military officials came out and denied it, smoothing things over. You did not see Rumsfeld threatening to fire anyone or making his anger public. The Bush admin knew that any signs of disunity would only undermine their position. They no doubt worked out a plan behind the scenes to deflect the media&#8217;s attempts to drive a wedge between Rumsfeld and military leaders. In other words, I would not blame the &#8220;leakers&#8221; per se but Roh&#8217;s public handling of the situation.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s all really vague. I cannot get a sense exactly what was said and by whom and how serious it really was. It might be the media distorting something again.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/01/12/note-to-foreign-ministry-officials/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trailor Park of Asia?  Good grief...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trailor Park of Asia?  Good grief&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silly Sally</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/01/12/note-to-foreign-ministry-officials/#comment-1483</link>
		<dc:creator>Silly Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You boys should be ashamed of yourselves.

You are like nasty boys, taking a trip down the hall to mock at the retards in the special- education class. It's about as "cool" as shooting fish in a barrel -- too easy!

Koreans came to us less advantaged than the rest of us; it's pathetic you boys pose as " Asia Experts" just to make fun of the "retards of Asia".

For you to even live in the Trailor Park of Asia speaks alot of your own caliber: Trailor Park expatriates.

You apparently aren't good enough to expatriate yourselves to Japan where the "class act" expatriates hang out.

Water seeks its own level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You boys should be ashamed of yourselves.</p>
<p>You are like nasty boys, taking a trip down the hall to mock at the retards in the special- education class. It&#8217;s about as &#8220;cool&#8221; as shooting fish in a barrel &#8212; too easy!</p>
<p>Koreans came to us less advantaged than the rest of us; it&#8217;s pathetic you boys pose as &#8221; Asia Experts&#8221; just to make fun of the &#8220;retards of Asia&#8221;.</p>
<p>For you to even live in the Trailor Park of Asia speaks alot of your own caliber: Trailor Park expatriates.</p>
<p>You apparently aren&#8217;t good enough to expatriate yourselves to Japan where the &#8220;class act&#8221; expatriates hang out.</p>
<p>Water seeks its own level.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/01/12/note-to-foreign-ministry-officials/#comment-1482</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think this was a set-up leak - it seems that certain officials have been on the cell-phone with certain reporters at certain papers (you can guess which ones).  Now, will the Blue House use this for political gain in the coming election?  Of course.  Are Foreign Affairs officials allowed to have their own views?  Of course.  Should they try to pursuade the President to see things their way when policy is being constructed?  That's their job, isn't it?  What you DON'T do, however, is leak to hostile papers that you think the boss is an asshole, even if he really is an asshole.  Like the military, the Foreign Ministry bureaucracy is a policy tool, and its job is to follow orders.  If a general was mouthing off in the press about how he thought the President and his advisors were idiots killing the country, we'd expect that general to be fired, even if we happened to agreed with his views.  And that's exactly what should happen here.

Personally, I don't know is there will be major changes in policy after the dust settles from this.  Even if the NSC and some of the more "independently" minded of Noh's advisors get their way, as soon as they try to enact some of their policy ideas, they're going to get a heavy dose of reality.  And frankly, I think Noh realizes this, which is why no matter how he uses this issue before the general election, I don't expect his policies vis-a-vis the United States will change as much as certain people fear.

At least I hope not, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this was a set-up leak - it seems that certain officials have been on the cell-phone with certain reporters at certain papers (you can guess which ones).  Now, will the Blue House use this for political gain in the coming election?  Of course.  Are Foreign Affairs officials allowed to have their own views?  Of course.  Should they try to pursuade the President to see things their way when policy is being constructed?  That&#8217;s their job, isn&#8217;t it?  What you DON&#8217;T do, however, is leak to hostile papers that you think the boss is an asshole, even if he really is an asshole.  Like the military, the Foreign Ministry bureaucracy is a policy tool, and its job is to follow orders.  If a general was mouthing off in the press about how he thought the President and his advisors were idiots killing the country, we&#8217;d expect that general to be fired, even if we happened to agreed with his views.  And that&#8217;s exactly what should happen here.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t know is there will be major changes in policy after the dust settles from this.  Even if the NSC and some of the more &#8220;independently&#8221; minded of Noh&#8217;s advisors get their way, as soon as they try to enact some of their policy ideas, they&#8217;re going to get a heavy dose of reality.  And frankly, I think Noh realizes this, which is why no matter how he uses this issue before the general election, I don&#8217;t expect his policies vis-a-vis the United States will change as much as certain people fear.</p>
<p>At least I hope not, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: oranckay</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/01/12/note-to-foreign-ministry-officials/#comment-1481</link>
		<dc:creator>oranckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one might imagine, the Hankyoryeh has a little something to say about this. 

The Chosun is going to have Tuesday's editorial on this quoted back in its face someday:

"Civil service officials can have their own personal views about major government policies, especially when those policies relate closely to the national interest, and the government should encourage them to express those views without concern for their superiors. While watching this process of open discussion, the general public may formulate basic opinions on issues that are technical and specialized, and without this, one cannot provide a foundation on which the people may assess national policy."

Okay right, so lets have a regular forum for leaking sensitive information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one might imagine, the Hankyoryeh has a little something to say about this. </p>
<p>The Chosun is going to have Tuesday&#8217;s editorial on this quoted back in its face someday:</p>
<p>&#8220;Civil service officials can have their own personal views about major government policies, especially when those policies relate closely to the national interest, and the government should encourage them to express those views without concern for their superiors. While watching this process of open discussion, the general public may formulate basic opinions on issues that are technical and specialized, and without this, one cannot provide a foundation on which the people may assess national policy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay right, so lets have a regular forum for leaking sensitive information.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen Rathbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Rathbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What it seems like to me is that Roh is trying to find someone to blame for his "kow towing" to the US. Recall that he promised his supporters to "stand up against" America. His supporters now feel he was too soft, so he is trying to make it look like others were undermining him. This "leak" seems like a set up to me. He will fire the accused individuals, thereby showing he is not the US's lackey. This is an attempt to boost his approval rating among his left-wing supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What it seems like to me is that Roh is trying to find someone to blame for his &#8220;kow towing&#8221; to the US. Recall that he promised his supporters to &#8220;stand up against&#8221; America. His supporters now feel he was too soft, so he is trying to make it look like others were undermining him. This &#8220;leak&#8221; seems like a set up to me. He will fire the accused individuals, thereby showing he is not the US&#8217;s lackey. This is an attempt to boost his approval rating among his left-wing supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're absolutely right that democratic processes must be respected even under a rube like Roh. At the same time, however, putting U.S. ties on a better footing than they were a year ago is one of the only areas where Roh's government has had some success. If the leftist-nativist faction in the Blue House/NSC gets its way, we could see significant slippage in areas across the board: North Korea's nukes, Iraq, the alliance in general. There is plenty of flammable kindling lying around to provoke another round of the Dec '02 anti-U.S. orgy, from the bogus Han river formaldahyde pollution case, to mad cow related trade friction to the USFK downsizing. Elections are coming and the Korean media have learned few lessons from last year. The Roh advisers on the attack are flesh-and-blood representatives of the dreaded Hankyoreh world view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right that democratic processes must be respected even under a rube like Roh. At the same time, however, putting U.S. ties on a better footing than they were a year ago is one of the only areas where Roh&#8217;s government has had some success. If the leftist-nativist faction in the Blue House/NSC gets its way, we could see significant slippage in areas across the board: North Korea&#8217;s nukes, Iraq, the alliance in general. There is plenty of flammable kindling lying around to provoke another round of the Dec &#8216;02 anti-U.S. orgy, from the bogus Han river formaldahyde pollution case, to mad cow related trade friction to the USFK downsizing. Elections are coming and the Korean media have learned few lessons from last year. The Roh advisers on the attack are flesh-and-blood representatives of the dreaded Hankyoreh world view.</p>
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