Kim Dae-jung interview in the Hani / Hani editorials in English

Just a quick post, because I’m in no condition at all today to do much blogging. Firstly, the Hankyoreh ran an interview with former President Kim Dae-jung that I really will try to fisk either today or tomorrow. The problem with these kinds of fiskings, however, is that for blogging purposes, I’ve got to translate the thing into English first, which, as I’m sure you can imagine, is a real pain in the ass. Actually, it’s not that big of a pain in the ass, and there’s a possibility I might be doing it for a living pretty soon, but it does take time, especially with an interview the length of Kim’s. Add a fisking to it, and it’s a major project. Anyway, back to the point - which is the interview itself - I almost got excited about it, both from the Hani’s introduction and the Oranckay’s brief note concerning it. As the Oranckay writes:

Currently the top Korean story at the Hankyoreh is an interview with former president Kim Dae-jung, in which Kim says that the North should give up its nukes first and that Kim Jong Il should be more responsible toward the whole of the Korean nation.

Cool, I thought - perhaps the ex-prez was laying off the soju after all. Sure enough, the Hani’s headline for the story reads, “Kim Dae-jung: ‘Only if the North first announces that it will give up its nuclear program.’ ” The problem is this - the headline means just what it says - Kim wants the north to first announce that it will give up its nukes, and then begin asking what the US will do for it. As he explains:

It’s not a question of what the US must do first in order for North Korea to give up its nukes; it’s that the North must first announce that it will give up its nukes. I ask them to say this - we fill freeze our nuclear program at its current stage and give it up, and since we are going to strip ourselves bear, what are you (the United States) specifically going to do.

When the Hani wondered whether the US would accept such a declaration from the North Koreans, Kim said:

Therefore, the responsibilities of the other four states [in the six party talks] as mediators are very important. The four shouldn’t just sit and watch - they should present fair plans to both sides [and by "both sides", I'm assuming Kim means "the US and North Korea," which is interesting, because it would seem to indicate that Kim doesn't view South Korea as being part of any "side" in this dispute]. China, Russia, and others [do "others" include South Korea, per chance?] can take on responsibility as guarantors. If this is the case, there will be meaning in the six-party talks.

Let me ask Kim this - do you mean to say that if, or better still, when the North Koreans start screwing around again, the Chinese and Russians are going to put the screws on Pyongyang? Excuse my cynicism, but I highly doubt it. And what really irked me is the way in which Kim seems to regard South Korea as a “mediator” between the DPRK and the US rather than an ally of the later. This is kind of odd, because earlier in his interview, he describes the United States as “our indispensable ally from all perspectives - security, diplomacy, economy, trade, and so on.” Whether or not this is true is a matter of debate, but assuming Kim actually believes that the US is an indispensable ally, has he considered how that ally might react if the ROK - an ally that is, quite frankly, very dispensable from the perspective of many in Washington - were to start acting less the ally and more the moderator in an issue as important to American security as the North Korean nuclear issue?

Also on a Hani note, they’ve begun to translate their editorials into English, which saves me the burden of having to type up a translation myself before proceeding to fisk them. For this rather welcome development, we have Oranckay to thank, although it does present the rather odd spectacle of having the same man translating the editorials of both the right-wing Chosun Ilbo and the left-wing Hankyoreh Shinmun. Anyway, to celebrate this occasion, allow me to post below a snippet of the kind of nonsense we should expect to see regularly in the year to come:

We are of the position that the resolution of the North Korean nuclear issue lies almost entirely with the determination of the United States. At the first round of talks the North reaffirmed its commitment to the principle of nonproliferation of the Korean Peninsula, and laid out a proposal for a step-by-step resolution to its nuclear program and the missile question. Recently it also hinted at the possibility it could yield to the Americans on the issue of a non-aggression pact. The problem is the uncompromising, hard-line approach to North Korea shared by the neoconservative elements in the Bush Administration. They scrapped the Geneva Agreement without a plan as to what should happen next, and at the six-way talks have not been demonstrating a serious and sincere desire for agreement. We strongly urge the Bush Administration to be true to its stated principles of peaceful resolution to this matter, and to bring closure to the North Korean nuclear issue and to the problem of peace on the peninsula with an approach that is rational and compromising.

This is going to be a long year.

4 Comments

  1. Toolboy your flag
    Posted January 1, 2004 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Marmot,

    Happy new year. Sometimes it’s hard to see the difference between Hankyoreh and the Nodong Shinmun. I’ll never forget (or forgive) Hani’s editorial after 9/11 in which in effect it said America deserved it.

  2. Posted January 2, 2004 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    Well that was annoying to read. Thanks for sharing it though!

  3. usinkorea your flag
    Posted January 2, 2004 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    First, a question — can anybody tell me what the circulation numbers for the Hani are? How much of the general public reads it?

    Next, I find the typical Korean thinking that the nuke issue is an American thing very annoying. If you go back over the issue in the papers, you will see a stark contrast between the first month or so and the rest.

    The first stories came out as Kim Dae Jung was winding down his presidency, and the stories were strong in saying, “South Korea will not be shoved aside this time! We will not sit by and let the US dictate an agreement we then have to pay for with our having no say!”…

    But not long after North Korea said it would only talk to the US and very publicly told South Korea to shut up about the nukes at a couple of well publicized meetings on other things, the tone CHANGED dramatically —-

    They decided to go along with North Korea in how it wanted the nuke issue solved rather than keep losing face with the North and rather than making the (seemingly) difficult change in the sunshine policy.

    The government and the media quickly dropped the “SK must have a voice at the table” and started writing about how the US needs to drop its hardline policy and negociate with NK (alone) “because it is millions of Korean lives at stake — not Americans” (Roh said this directly in the run up to the election).

    But, I have to admit the idea Kim Dae Jung had about the usefulness of the six party talks is right —- the reason why I kept telling all the nay sayers 1-on-1 talks were not a good option was because the best the US could probably hope for is to get China and South Korea to commit to firm reprecusions the next time the North breaks the deal.

    Of course, the chances of success are very low, but nobody wants to talk about alternatives. So what can Kim say?

    China and SK (and some in the US) don’t want to risk a collapse in the North much less military strikes against it.

    And the US is unwilling to play the bad guy and twist China and SK’s arm to get them to twist the arm of NK enough to either faciliate a collapse or force them to fullfill a real agreement.

    I think the US should be more aggressive in telling SK and China that they will greatly damage their bilateral relationship with the US if they can’t help us much on an issue that everybody agrees greatly effects us all.

    But I haven’t seen a sign of the will to do this in the US at all…

  4. Posted January 2, 2004 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    To show that a “hate Korea” mentality doesn’t totally infest my mind (which you could suspect if you see how much I dislike the USFK-SK relationship on my website)

    I think the S. Korean opinion on being shut out of the 1994 agreement was correct - They had virtually no say in the deal the US cut during President Carter’s trip, but SK and Japan had to pay for much of it. I wouldn’t have liked that if I were in those governments….

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