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	<title>Comments on: Information Request: Northern Korean border disputes</title>
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		<title>By: Horace Jeffery Hodges</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/12/09/information-request-northern-korean-border-disputes/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Horace Jeffery Hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Monday, December 15, 2003 edition of *The Korea Herald* adds another article to the growing number critical of China's Northeast Asian Project, which is claiming Goguryeo for China. See page 9, columns e-f: "North Korea denounces China's claim on Goguryeo." It would be a historical irony if the rise of Chinese nationalism contributed to Korean unity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Monday, December 15, 2003 edition of *The Korea Herald* adds another article to the growing number critical of China&#8217;s Northeast Asian Project, which is claiming Goguryeo for China. See page 9, columns e-f: &#8220;North Korea denounces China&#8217;s claim on Goguryeo.&#8221; It would be a historical irony if the rise of Chinese nationalism contributed to Korean unity.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Jeffery Hodges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Jeffery Hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today's issue of the Korea Herald (Saturday, December 13, 2003) has a feature article on the dispute over Goguryeo: "Korea, China restart old fight on history" (page 13). It summarizes the arguments and gives the names of Korean historians involved in countering China's claims.

Interestingly, the article also includes a few Korean historians who criticize both the Chinese historians and some of the Korean ones for the fault of "presentism." This is a flawed paradigm for history that defines national history based upon one's current territory -- according to Lim Ji-hyun, of Hanyang University.

This label doesn't quite fit Korea's own way of defining its national history, it seems to me, since Korea's current borders don't include Goguryeo. I think, rather, that Korea is defining its national history based upon the greatest geographical extent of political control ever held, historically, by those who were at least arguably Korean.

I'm keeping an eye on these developments because they are potentially disruptive, possibly destabilizing -- and because I suspect that conflict with China over its imperialism will make American 'imperialism' look far more benign. America might even begin to look like a friend again. The story will be interesting as it unfolds. I hope that we don't end up living in interesting times.

Jeffery Hodges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s issue of the Korea Herald (Saturday, December 13, 2003) has a feature article on the dispute over Goguryeo: &#8220;Korea, China restart old fight on history&#8221; (page 13). It summarizes the arguments and gives the names of Korean historians involved in countering China&#8217;s claims.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the article also includes a few Korean historians who criticize both the Chinese historians and some of the Korean ones for the fault of &#8220;presentism.&#8221; This is a flawed paradigm for history that defines national history based upon one&#8217;s current territory &#8212; according to Lim Ji-hyun, of Hanyang University.</p>
<p>This label doesn&#8217;t quite fit Korea&#8217;s own way of defining its national history, it seems to me, since Korea&#8217;s current borders don&#8217;t include Goguryeo. I think, rather, that Korea is defining its national history based upon the greatest geographical extent of political control ever held, historically, by those who were at least arguably Korean.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m keeping an eye on these developments because they are potentially disruptive, possibly destabilizing &#8212; and because I suspect that conflict with China over its imperialism will make American &#8216;imperialism&#8217; look far more benign. America might even begin to look like a friend again. The story will be interesting as it unfolds. I hope that we don&#8217;t end up living in interesting times.</p>
<p>Jeffery Hodges</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that Tian Chi, in the Changbai mountain range (sorry, I only know the Chinese names for it, but on the border of China and Korea with the Chinese side in Jilin province)?  I went there a few years ago myself...  the drive and climbing hundreds of meters of stairs to get to the top was less than fun, but it was totally worth the view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that Tian Chi, in the Changbai mountain range (sorry, I only know the Chinese names for it, but on the border of China and Korea with the Chinese side in Jilin province)?  I went there a few years ago myself&#8230;  the drive and climbing hundreds of meters of stairs to get to the top was less than fun, but it was totally worth the view.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've probably already looked at it, but Andre Schmid's _Korea Between Empires_ includes some discussion of the Choson-Qing negotiations that led to the border demarcartion as well as how the issue was raised again around the turn of the century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve probably already looked at it, but Andre Schmid&#8217;s _Korea Between Empires_ includes some discussion of the Choson-Qing negotiations that led to the border demarcartion as well as how the issue was raised again around the turn of the century.</p>
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