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		<title>By: jeffery hodges</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffery hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Gabriel might better be termed Jibreel. His knowledge of and apparent sympathy with the Moro Front and Militant Islamist movements in Southeast Asia (and elsewhere), along with his reference to having "a second circumcision" might suggest that he is Muslim. I'd guess that he used to be a secular Muslim of the left who -- as with too much of the left these days -- is aligning himself with retrograde Islamist movements because they fight against the West, capitalism, globalization, and (especially) the United States. This might be a tactical alignment or a genuine shift of ideology. Or he might just be playing a cyber-role and having fun in his anonymity.

Jeffery Hodges


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JAN 9/03 TOPICS INCL: Masterful analysis of reunification, Future of U.S. Forces Korea; South Koreans killed in Iraq; China &#38; Korea fight over ancient history; Josh Marshall on Korean diplomacy; Riots; Bruce Cumings attacks; Hunger strikes; North Korea...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Gabriel might better be termed Jibreel. His knowledge of and apparent sympathy with the Moro Front and Militant Islamist movements in Southeast Asia (and elsewhere), along with his reference to having &#8220;a second circumcision&#8221; might suggest that he is Muslim. I&#8217;d guess that he used to be a secular Muslim of the left who &#8212; as with too much of the left these days &#8212; is aligning himself with retrograde Islamist movements because they fight against the West, capitalism, globalization, and (especially) the United States. This might be a tactical alignment or a genuine shift of ideology. Or he might just be playing a cyber-role and having fun in his anonymity.</p>
<p>Jeffery Hodges</p>
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JAN 9/03 TOPICS INCL: Masterful analysis of reunification, Future of U.S. Forces Korea; South Koreans killed in Iraq; China &amp; Korea fight over ancient history; Josh Marshall on Korean diplomacy; Riots; Bruce Cumings attacks; Hunger strikes; North Korea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While cyber-stalkers like Gabriel and the anonymous troll (who,  like the lux bearer over at SEB, may be the same person) increase traffic, it's painfully clear that they diminish the quality of debate. Let the value-subtracting crowd start their own blogs -- or return to boards like those at the Korea Herald or Chosun, which have been irreparable defaced by ranters of Gabriel's ilk. (I admire Gabriel's brave but futile attempt to make the Philippines relevant...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While cyber-stalkers like Gabriel and the anonymous troll (who,  like the lux bearer over at SEB, may be the same person) increase traffic, it&#8217;s painfully clear that they diminish the quality of debate. Let the value-subtracting crowd start their own blogs &#8212; or return to boards like those at the Korea Herald or Chosun, which have been irreparable defaced by ranters of Gabriel&#8217;s ilk. (I admire Gabriel&#8217;s brave but futile attempt to make the Philippines relevant&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it looks like certain Filipinos have just as much of a national esteem problem as the Koreans.  

Marmot - The PLA Navy is already taking care of the defense needs of Mischief Reef, about 60 miles off Palawan in the PI.  As nature abhors a vacuum, when the 7th Fleet left Subic the PLA Navy stepped in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it looks like certain Filipinos have just as much of a national esteem problem as the Koreans.  </p>
<p>Marmot - The PLA Navy is already taking care of the defense needs of Mischief Reef, about 60 miles off Palawan in the PI.  As nature abhors a vacuum, when the 7th Fleet left Subic the PLA Navy stepped in.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me, or did Gabe just go balistic over a pension plan?  Freudian slip or what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me, or did Gabe just go balistic over a pension plan?  Freudian slip or what.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Bevers</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Bevers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marmot,

You have a top-quality blog with a good following of knowledgeable readers who generally take full responsibility for their comments by attaching their names. I like that. What I do not like are anonymous posters who make irresponsible remarks and engage in personal attacks to deflect attention away from the topic. I think that is what Gabriel was trying to do.

I make spelling and grammar errors all the time when I am posting, and I make even more when I translate some nonsense article from "Hankyore," which I sometimes waste my time doing because I want others to see some of the goofy commentary to which Koreans are being exposed. I understand and excuse your spelling mistakes, which I rarely see, because I come here for your insight and your entertaining writing style.

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marmot,</p>
<p>You have a top-quality blog with a good following of knowledgeable readers who generally take full responsibility for their comments by attaching their names. I like that. What I do not like are anonymous posters who make irresponsible remarks and engage in personal attacks to deflect attention away from the topic. I think that is what Gabriel was trying to do.</p>
<p>I make spelling and grammar errors all the time when I am posting, and I make even more when I translate some nonsense article from &#8220;Hankyore,&#8221; which I sometimes waste my time doing because I want others to see some of the goofy commentary to which Koreans are being exposed. I understand and excuse your spelling mistakes, which I rarely see, because I come here for your insight and your entertaining writing style.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments erased.

PS: You're right, Gabriel - banning you completely is an extremely difficult thing to do in the ROK.  So if trolling this blog means that much to you, hey, I can't stop you completely.</description>
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<p>PS: You&#8217;re right, Gabriel - banning you completely is an extremely difficult thing to do in the ROK.  So if trolling this blog means that much to you, hey, I can&#8217;t stop you completely.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 06:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trolls, trolls, trolls...

Anonymous trolls, too!  All the better!

Look, I appreciate a good troll as much as the next blogger, but if you're going to an obnoxious little prick in my comments section, I'm not going to waste time reading your crap.  It's not that I don't want to see dissenting opinions expressed here.  Far from it - I would love nothing more that to see my comments section become a forum for real debate. 99% of my commenters are courteous, insightful people who add life to this blog, and for that, I thank them.  However, coming onto MY blog (which I pay for with MY money) and being a rude little assclown will not be tolerated.  So consider this a warning - if you act like a jerk, you will be banned from posting, and any future posts will be deleted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trolls, trolls, trolls&#8230;</p>
<p>Anonymous trolls, too!  All the better!</p>
<p>Look, I appreciate a good troll as much as the next blogger, but if you&#8217;re going to an obnoxious little prick in my comments section, I&#8217;m not going to waste time reading your crap.  It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t want to see dissenting opinions expressed here.  Far from it - I would love nothing more that to see my comments section become a forum for real debate. 99% of my commenters are courteous, insightful people who add life to this blog, and for that, I thank them.  However, coming onto MY blog (which I pay for with MY money) and being a rude little assclown will not be tolerated.  So consider this a warning - if you act like a jerk, you will be banned from posting, and any future posts will be deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-818</link>
		<dc:creator>gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 06:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"So you equate "You have blacks, too?" with My Lai? Wow."

ah wow, aren't we too slow? arguing with the likes of brendon carr is a pain in the ass. you never learn anything from the likes of him.

So here it is brendon carr, i'll say it slowly

If      something        as         serious          as       My      Lai      will   take      TWENTY          MONTHS          to             get             to           the           American                   public,            is              it                 really            impossible                    that               saying                  what                 Bush               said                  will                  take              FIVE                   MONTHS                       to               get            to              the                   american               public???





Jeez Brendon, get an education.   If you have nothing intelligent to say, spew some venom at least, that way you're gonna make the posters think twice   arachi????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you equate &#8220;You have blacks, too?&#8221; with My Lai? Wow.&#8221;</p>
<p>ah wow, aren&#8217;t we too slow? arguing with the likes of brendon carr is a pain in the ass. you never learn anything from the likes of him.</p>
<p>So here it is brendon carr, i&#8217;ll say it slowly</p>
<p>If      something        as         serious          as       My      Lai      will   take      TWENTY          MONTHS          to             get             to           the           American                   public,            is              it                 really            impossible                    that               saying                  what                 Bush               said                  will                  take              FIVE                   MONTHS                       to               get            to              the                   american               public???</p>
<p>Jeez Brendon, get an education.   If you have nothing intelligent to say, spew some venom at least, that way you&#8217;re gonna make the posters think twice   arachi????</p>
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		<title>By: gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 06:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the american presence in Korea:

the Marmot wants the americans to leave korea and make rich nations be responsible for their own defense. I'll bet my balls that the americans will never leave until the north korean dictatorship is deposed. 

North Korea and its nuclear arsenal is never south korea's or even japan's problem. do you think that the north koreans are so stupid that they are going to detonate a nuclear bomb in seoul? do you know how close seoul is to pyongyang? are you people too young to remember chernobyl? dont you remember the milk cans from europe being pulled out of supermarket shelves due to contamination? if a nuclear bomb is detonated in seoul, will it not affect (AND NOT EFFECT!!!) pyongyang? if a bomb is detonated in tokyo, will the winds not bring pestilence to pyongyang too? and if pyongyang bombs seoul and tokyo, what will happen to its milking cows? (think hyundai asan here)

The fact is, kim jong il and the north's nuclear arsenal is America's problem. The americans are worried because with all the money coming in from the south and japan, pyongyang may have the capability to launch intercontinental ballistic missiles. AND MOTHER AMERICA WILL NEVER BE SAFE.


The Marmot talks about having ground troops as no longer necessary due to technology. the Marmot obviously, does not know what he is talking about (boy, that's serious, his english is not perfect and now his analysis might be wrong?)

The Marmot must have not heard of how many people died due to system failures during the gulf war and the war in Iraq?

The marmot doesn't know how much a solar flare or some other electromagnetic energy bursts can do to an electronic circuit board?

The marmot doesn't know how hard it is to develop embedded systems? The marmot has not heard of the maiden flight of the ariane V? or how a priority inversion problem reset and reset the system on the Mars Pathfinder (it was good that they left the windriver debugger on board)? the fact is that it is very hard to develop embedded systems. embedded systems developers will tell you that embedded systems development is really like groping in the dark.

and that is why the americans have to be in a forward area like the one south of the DMZ. Because when everything else fails, they could just storm across the border and start shooting.

if the americans leave the peninsula without having kim jong il deposed first and having the north in the south's hands i will have a second circumcision and i will buy the marmot all the san miguel beer he could drink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the american presence in Korea:</p>
<p>the Marmot wants the americans to leave korea and make rich nations be responsible for their own defense. I&#8217;ll bet my balls that the americans will never leave until the north korean dictatorship is deposed. </p>
<p>North Korea and its nuclear arsenal is never south korea&#8217;s or even japan&#8217;s problem. do you think that the north koreans are so stupid that they are going to detonate a nuclear bomb in seoul? do you know how close seoul is to pyongyang? are you people too young to remember chernobyl? dont you remember the milk cans from europe being pulled out of supermarket shelves due to contamination? if a nuclear bomb is detonated in seoul, will it not affect (AND NOT EFFECT!!!) pyongyang? if a bomb is detonated in tokyo, will the winds not bring pestilence to pyongyang too? and if pyongyang bombs seoul and tokyo, what will happen to its milking cows? (think hyundai asan here)</p>
<p>The fact is, kim jong il and the north&#8217;s nuclear arsenal is America&#8217;s problem. The americans are worried because with all the money coming in from the south and japan, pyongyang may have the capability to launch intercontinental ballistic missiles. AND MOTHER AMERICA WILL NEVER BE SAFE.</p>
<p>The Marmot talks about having ground troops as no longer necessary due to technology. the Marmot obviously, does not know what he is talking about (boy, that&#8217;s serious, his english is not perfect and now his analysis might be wrong?)</p>
<p>The Marmot must have not heard of how many people died due to system failures during the gulf war and the war in Iraq?</p>
<p>The marmot doesn&#8217;t know how much a solar flare or some other electromagnetic energy bursts can do to an electronic circuit board?</p>
<p>The marmot doesn&#8217;t know how hard it is to develop embedded systems? The marmot has not heard of the maiden flight of the ariane V? or how a priority inversion problem reset and reset the system on the Mars Pathfinder (it was good that they left the windriver debugger on board)? the fact is that it is very hard to develop embedded systems. embedded systems developers will tell you that embedded systems development is really like groping in the dark.</p>
<p>and that is why the americans have to be in a forward area like the one south of the DMZ. Because when everything else fails, they could just storm across the border and start shooting.</p>
<p>if the americans leave the peninsula without having kim jong il deposed first and having the north in the south&#8217;s hands i will have a second circumcision and i will buy the marmot all the san miguel beer he could drink</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/28/dont-lecture-the-americans-about-friendship/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 05:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you equate "You have blacks, too?" with My Lai? Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you equate &#8220;You have blacks, too?&#8221; with My Lai? Wow.</p>
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