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		<title>By: Interested-Participant</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2003/11/15/clinton-give-da-norks-a-nonaggression-pact/#comment-636</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a my perspective, Bill Clinton represents the interests of the United States like any good Frenchman would.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a my perspective, Bill Clinton represents the interests of the United States like any good Frenchman would.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at the Korea media forum, I went into a little 
more detail about this, not much more, but here is my
thought on the deal that will probably eventually be cut
with NK.

First, I agree ex-presidents should shut the F- up when 
it comes to contemporary issues.  I don't want to hear
Bush Sr. talking about trade or Iraq or anything dealing
with anything outside his presidency except what came 
before it.  A US president is not a senator or former rep
or sec of state.  When a pres goes to a place like SK, they 
listen as do people like the Norks.  They don't understand
a former president could sell peanuts at a Braves game
for all we care about them.  And it makes dealing with 
other countries harder.

Next, as for the deal that will come, it will come 
because nobody, and I mean dem or rep or official pundit,
wants to risk a cutting North Korea off enough to make them
collapse because we fear an explosion onto SK and possibly Japan.

We also can't stomach seeing hundreds of thousands to millions of Koreans 
starving to death "because we cut off humanitarian aid"...
we could probably stomach it, actually, but we can't handle 
the New Yorker or Atlantic Monthly writing about it.

No.....our hypocrisy is that we feel goody goody doing a Clinton where 
we send food shipments and sit back and watch millions of Koreans starve 
to death anyway, because we can't bring ourselves to fight the root cause
but can say, "We tried!  We good!  We sent food!"

It is intellectually acceptable for us to send food, material, and
money that does not prevent hundreds of thousands starving to death but
does ensure or at least prolong the survival of the regime.

But it is not acceptable to cut North Korea off and let similar numbers 
and possible (likely) many more die.

And what I guess is even worse, for some idiotic reason 
we can't follow the example we are really setting and 
just send gobs and gobs of money and material and food 
North Korea to save it outright.

No.  Saving it outright.  Treating it like Europe after
WWII and having a Nork Marshal Plan ---- the nature of 
the regime be damned! ---- doesn't suit us right either.

So instead we stick with the typical non-answer answer
of hiding our eyes as millions die and we aid their deaths
but feeling good about ourselves that we tried to make a 
difference in North Korea (intice them to change) and help
their people with humanitarian aid....

Nobody can come out and state what the reality is...

"We are not willing to risk war or bloodshed outside 
North Korea if the regime collapses.  So we are going to
keep the regime alive, but not strong enough to make a move
against the South or cause too large a problem elsewhere.  As
long as they are starving, they need us.  Sorry North Korean
people....."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at the Korea media forum, I went into a little<br />
more detail about this, not much more, but here is my<br />
thought on the deal that will probably eventually be cut<br />
with NK.</p>
<p>First, I agree ex-presidents should shut the F- up when<br />
it comes to contemporary issues.  I don&#8217;t want to hear<br />
Bush Sr. talking about trade or Iraq or anything dealing<br />
with anything outside his presidency except what came<br />
before it.  A US president is not a senator or former rep<br />
or sec of state.  When a pres goes to a place like SK, they<br />
listen as do people like the Norks.  They don&#8217;t understand<br />
a former president could sell peanuts at a Braves game<br />
for all we care about them.  And it makes dealing with<br />
other countries harder.</p>
<p>Next, as for the deal that will come, it will come<br />
because nobody, and I mean dem or rep or official pundit,<br />
wants to risk a cutting North Korea off enough to make them<br />
collapse because we fear an explosion onto SK and possibly Japan.</p>
<p>We also can&#8217;t stomach seeing hundreds of thousands to millions of Koreans<br />
starving to death &#8220;because we cut off humanitarian aid&#8221;&#8230;<br />
we could probably stomach it, actually, but we can&#8217;t handle<br />
the New Yorker or Atlantic Monthly writing about it.</p>
<p>No&#8230;..our hypocrisy is that we feel goody goody doing a Clinton where<br />
we send food shipments and sit back and watch millions of Koreans starve<br />
to death anyway, because we can&#8217;t bring ourselves to fight the root cause<br />
but can say, &#8220;We tried!  We good!  We sent food!&#8221;</p>
<p>It is intellectually acceptable for us to send food, material, and<br />
money that does not prevent hundreds of thousands starving to death but<br />
does ensure or at least prolong the survival of the regime.</p>
<p>But it is not acceptable to cut North Korea off and let similar numbers<br />
and possible (likely) many more die.</p>
<p>And what I guess is even worse, for some idiotic reason<br />
we can&#8217;t follow the example we are really setting and<br />
just send gobs and gobs of money and material and food<br />
North Korea to save it outright.</p>
<p>No.  Saving it outright.  Treating it like Europe after<br />
WWII and having a Nork Marshal Plan &#8212;- the nature of<br />
the regime be damned! &#8212;- doesn&#8217;t suit us right either.</p>
<p>So instead we stick with the typical non-answer answer<br />
of hiding our eyes as millions die and we aid their deaths<br />
but feeling good about ourselves that we tried to make a<br />
difference in North Korea (intice them to change) and help<br />
their people with humanitarian aid&#8230;.</p>
<p>Nobody can come out and state what the reality is&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;We are not willing to risk war or bloodshed outside<br />
North Korea if the regime collapses.  So we are going to<br />
keep the regime alive, but not strong enough to make a move<br />
against the South or cause too large a problem elsewhere.  As<br />
long as they are starving, they need us.  Sorry North Korean<br />
people&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
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